Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
[Archbishop Thordan] simply wished to put an end to a bitter war that had waged for a thousand years with no end in sight. Much like the Warrior of Light, he sought to use divine power to achieve that goal. Something that Ysayle herself did, yet received very little criticism for. Let's not forget that she also cheered as the barrier protecting Ishgard fell and the Dravanians flocking to her side assaulted the Ishgardians within - non-combatants included.
Uh-uh. No. Calling shenanigans; that wasn't the Archbishop's motivation at all. One could be forgiven for thinking so, since prior to Nidhogg's defeat this was his stated purpose for his plan. However, when confronted with Nidhogg's (then-unknown to be temporary) death he just yells "But muh history!" and goes through with it anyway, and later tells us that he intends to "bless" all men in order to bring about an "endless era of peace" where "vice and conflict [have ceased] to be." (Layman's terms: he wanted to temper everyone and strip away free will to bring about peace.) The war was, for most intents and purposes, over by the time the Archbishop truly set his plans into motion - showing that he was not a well-intentioned extremist, but a power-hungry old man.

Magic philosophy: this makes Thordan a perfect example of a White villain, and also shows why in moderation Red/Black isn't necessarily evil.


Calling out Ysayle for exulting in the Dravanian assault on Ishgard was probably one of the things I most wanted to do. Though she claimed ignorance in regards to knowing the Dravanians would go after civilians... what the kupo did she expect?!