Sooooooo everyone is ok with big pulls from a tank that knows what they are doing. The problem isn't the pull, but tanks that don't use CDs or rotate them properly? Players are unwilling to let the tank figure these things out by dying or unwilling to teach them. A 2 pack grab is pretty standard in most dungeons. If you can't heal it and notice the tank isn't using his kit (CDs & stance) then educate them. If the tank is using them and you can't heal it, it might be your fault. If packs are taking to long to die then dps aren't using aoe/cds, educate them. Don't put this all on the tank.