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    Avatre Drakone
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    Most of the time, it depends on how you phrase it. More people are accepting of advice if it's more along the lines of:

    "Hey, here is something that helped me when I was learning X role"

    as opposed to:

    "Start using X skill more noob"

    While those are both not really what you could be saying, the way it is said is definitely what can get people's attention, or dismissal of your advice.
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Most of the time, it depends on how you phrase it. More people are accepting of advice if it's more along the lines of:

    "Hey, here is something that helped me when I was learning X role"
    Your totally right, now I feel bad last night I asked a rdm (was leveling my dragoon) why they wernt using scatter on the pull after second boss but really I notice it the whole dungeon. I could have said you know scatter works better on multiple mobs instead of why arent u using scatter. I guess I get so triggered by players not aoeing I couldnt help myself but I will definitively try to be more polite about it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Your totally right, now I feel bad last night I asked a rdm (was leveling my dragoon) why they wernt using scatter on the pull after second boss but really I notice it the whole dungeon. I could have said you know scatter works better on multiple mobs instead of why arent u using scatter. I guess I get so triggered by players not aoeing I couldnt help myself but I will definitively try to be more polite about it now.
    Either way you ask can backfire. I remember one time doing Aery when leveling my BLM with a friend(IIRC he was WHM). The tank(PLD) was using only Provoke to initiate all pulls, he was using Flash and his rotations properly, but only Provoke to get the first of the mobs attention. When my friend asked why he preferred to use Provoke over Shield Lob(didn't say anything about using Shield Lob being better than Provoke, just why he preferred one over the other), he basically lost his shit and refused to move any further into the dungeon(we were right before the second boss). Even the PLDs friend, who was in there and stayed after we kicked the PLD, said that he can be difficult but it generally a nice guy. We finished the run with no problem after getting a replacement tank.

    So even questions regarding why someone prefers one thing over another can set people off...which is one reason I tend to stay quiet in parties unless people REALLY need the advice/input that I can give.
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    For some players it doesn't matter how nice or helpful you're trying to be they won't have any part of it. I still remember this one time I tried to give a tip to this healer in one dungeon and they replied with "Don't tell me how 2 heal" and ignored what I said. There's no reasoning with those types of people.
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