Tanks, please use buffs

[Odeon]

You seem to be getting to the wrong conclusion from the right arguments.

First I want you to remember that you're asking tanks to do something that is not a necessity to improve the comfort of the healers. Keep that in mind.

I disagree when you say that healers have it hardest of all roles but that's my personal opinion, I find that being the tank requires more attention to the mobs, my position, my teammates, their position, the mechanics of a fight, whatever.

I can't trust people I don't know straight away. I'm not going to start immediately with large pulls in a dungeon, I need to see who I'm playing with. How much damage can the DPS dish out, does the healer contribute or not (there are still many dps-shy healers), does he still heal beyond that, etc.

I judge people. I have to, I'm the shield of the group, the one going first, and I'm the one supposed to get hit and stay alive. You might think that it's the healer's job to keep me alive, and it is, yes, but ultimately the tank is the one to decide how much they can get hit and survive. This is a tanking reflex from playing years of MMORPG that most dedicated tanks have: "If I die, we wipe." Not necessarily true but that's not the point.

So I don't know whether I can trust my healer, and life can go down very fast.

I see my life draining away, I pop a cd, but maybe that was panicking for the healer, maybe he's good and concentrating on DPS and only making sure I get healed when I hit 10%. Couting on me not to die by using those CDs. I don't want to be forced to resort to a CD for something that I judge not necessary.

This is possibly the point I disagree with you most: my defensive cooldown abilities are not comfort abilities, this isn't a healer quality of life improvement. They have a point and need to be used to an end.

Never would a situation get messy because I withhold a cooldown. That can't happen. That's the entire point of these abilities, to prevent disaster when error strikes, you can't say that it's an error in itself to withhold them for that.

Situations never get hairy because I do what I do as a tank and pop my CD when they're neededs, not just because they're available and unused and we might gain 10 seconds on a fight.

If you want to rush something you're over-geared for, sure, let's use CD because it doesn't really matter and the healer will be able to deal damage. Real content ? Not happening.

[Spiroglyph]

I see a couple of DRKs pop Living Dead at random while at full hp mid fight. I assume it is to assert dominance over the enemies.

Ive seen this done with HG and it actually doesn't bother me too much, rather I find it helpful in VERY large pulls (for example it was a thing frequently done in Gubal HM after 2nd boss) - tank pulls everything, and as soon as enmity is established and HP starts going down tank HGs, and that gives me enough time to set up enhaced regens and shields in and throw in deeps before HG disappears. After that tank still has enough cooldowns to manage still living mobs...

This I don't mind, but popping it with literally every other available cooldown? Lol.

Tanks seem to either not use any CDs or use them when they won't be mitigating ANYTHING (i.e while running before a pull), tanks using cooldowns in thought out way are a rare thing to behold, so count your blessings when you see one!

[Galgarion]

It's all well and good to call out bad tanks, but yesterday I had some truly terrible healers, so perhaps there's some kind of universal balance at play? I ran Castrum Arum for five hours yesterday to get the axe drop for glamour, and the majority of the healers I got for those runs were utter garbage that took the healer dps meta too, too far. By which I mean this spate of morons were focused on their dps to my detriment. Trash pulls can be tricky, but there's no excuse for letting a tank die during boss fights with so much avoidable damage and only one target to focus on. Did I dps too? Hell yes, I did. But I always had a cooldown running for my burst damage, and I never dropped defiance for group pulls. If I'm dead and you have 80% of your mana left, then you're a crap healer.

[ffchampion]

I see a couple of DRKs pop Living Dead at random while at full hp mid fight. I assume it is to assert dominance over the enemies.

The amount of times i accidentally fat finger Living Dead is not funny

[MyaValentine]

"I ran with a bad tank and I want to whinne about it" -Threat.

there's a venting threat for this siturations there's no reason to create a whole threat like if a bad tank who don't use coolddowns are out of the sudden going to read this thread and be like " OH S@#T how did I not realized this before ".... come on.

[Areic]

I mean I'll almost always use my buffs off CD since I do nothing but big pulls. But if I see the healer is one of those that likes to stand around just throwing heals with plenty of downtime I'll cut down on my tank CDs so they actually have to work like the rest of us.

I've seen far more lazy "I don't have to dps even though I'm currently doing next to nothing" healers than I've seen tanks who refuse to use CDs intelligently

[Gemina]

I just want these tanks to try healing to see first hand how much stress it puts on us when you pull large and don't rotate mitigation CDs.

[Fyce]

I mean I'll almost always use my buffs off CD since I do nothing but big pulls.

If your DPS aren't up to snuff, then big pulls are more often than not worse than small pulls.

[Areic]

If your DPS aren't up to snuff, then big pulls are more often than not worse than small pulls.

I always run with my girlfriend who's bard does high aoe dps, never went into an expert without her so I've never had any problems in that department

[Galgarion]

I just want these tanks to try healing to see first hand how much stress it puts on us when you pull large and don't rotate mitigation CDs.

I get it, I've been leveling a healer. Just did my first Arum Vale. Good god. Felt like Failure: The Game. Got some super saiyan Paladin who thought he could pull the entire first room just because he had shire gear on. I just find this thread topic annoying because the people who should read it, don't read anything period. That makes the topic pointless. Being bad is like being an alcoholic, you can't start the recovery until you admit there's a problem.