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  1. #11
    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Why ignore the melee part of the rotation? Rdm has a melee aoe they use after they fill the mana bars.
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  2. #12
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    You should try Bards aoe "rotation" and get back to us. THAT is boring AF. All I do is dot a few enemies, go into Mages ballad, then spam quick nock and rain of death if it procs. After those 30 seconds are up its non stop quick nock spamming
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  3. #13
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Most red mages I see only use scatter and never use enchanted moulinet, instead they opt to do their melee combo on a single target. -_-
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    Ariomi's Avatar
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    Ariyala Amaterasu
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Most red mages I see only use scatter and never use enchanted moulinet, instead they opt to do their melee combo on a single target. -_-
    Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.
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  5. #15
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    You should try Bards aoe "rotation" and get back to us. THAT is boring AF. All I do is dot a few enemies, go into Mages ballad, then spam quick nock and rain of death if it procs. After those 30 seconds are up its non stop quick nock spamming
    It is boring, but our numbers tho! XD
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    PrismaticDaybreak's Avatar
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    Prism Daybreak
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariomi View Post
    Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.
    The recast is ~3 seconds less, doing several of them in a row is far more damage than Scatter in the same period.
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  7. #17
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    I'm still hoping that RDM gets Verblizzard and Verwater as AoEs, then work on the AoE spellblade into a 3 skill combo that triggers Verflare/Verholy, then make Verflare and Verholy AoEs (with falling damage of course).

    Other than that, SAM has the most engaging AoE I've probably experienced. I wish it was like that for other jobs. Like I wish BRD's Quick Nock combo'd with Wide Volley (that's less TP and more damage) instead of removing it. Same for DRG's Ring of Thorns but honestly this is because I like the animation lol.
    Wouldn't water spells be banned from red mages due to when's lore
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  8. #18
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    D_C's Avatar
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    Diana Crunchetta
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 60
    Yar, Red Mage AoE bein' dull as dishwater s'why I play BLM most. An' what keeps me from enjoyin' other DPS now too. Definitely spoiled.

    How 'bout Enchanted Moulinet givin a stack of ehm, insert fancy soundin' word here, an' at 3 stacks verholy/verflare become AoE at reduced potency.

    Ya just can't make AoE on any class be as cool as BLM, but ya can still do better. Make Bardsong procs happen when Quick Knock crits two or more targets. There are lotsa options ta make it more fun. They done lots ta make single target shite more engagin' but AoE ain't gettin' enough love.
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  9. #19
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    Stormblessed9000's Avatar
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    Teloran Stormblessed
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariomi View Post
    Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.
    Scatter has a GDC of 2.5 seconds. Moulinet has a GCD of 1.5 seconds. Moulinet does the same damage in 1.5 seconds that two scatters do in 5 seconds. People who think they do the same damage both don't understand that the RDM melee skills have shorter GCDs or that dual casted skills still trigger a second GCD.
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  10. #20
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    MidnightTundra's Avatar
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    Luciana Wolf
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariomi View Post
    Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.
    The fact that you don't understand how Dualcast or even how the GCD works is perplexing. But I guess the job is brain dead enough you can still do well in any piece of content. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the message due to it being poorly worded perhaps?
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