Can Red Mage aoe be less boring?

[Stormblessed9000]

Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.

Scatter has a GDC of 2.5 seconds. Moulinet has a GCD of 1.5 seconds. Moulinet does the same damage in 1.5 seconds that two scatters do in 5 seconds. People who think they do the same damage both don't understand that the RDM melee skills have shorter GCDs or that dual casted skills still trigger a second GCD.

[MidnightTundra]

Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.

The fact that you don't understand how Dualcast or even how the GCD works is perplexing. But I guess the job is brain dead enough you can still do well in any piece of content. Maybe I'm misinterpreting the message due to it being poorly worded perhaps?

[spelley]

Because Moulinet does the same damage as dualcast scatters. Most red mages would rather just aoe from a distance while they watch netflix. They rather do the 1500 potency melee combo on a boss or something.

Dualcast still triggers the GCD recast timer. This is why after you Dualcast a spell you have that ~1.5-2s period of time where you literally can't cast another spell that is also on the GCD. This means (assuming low spellspeed) each cast of Scatter at 100 potency takes 2.4-2.5s each (so 4.8s-5s total over 2 casts) vs Enchanted Moulinet dealing 200 potency over 1.5s.

Potency per second (PPS) = potency / recast time
Scatter = 100 potency / 2.5s = 40pps per mob
Enchanted Moulinet = 200 / 1.5s = 133pps per mob.

Enchanted Moulinet blows Scatter out of the water

[Jukebox12]

I'm still hoping that RDM gets Verblizzard and Verwater as AoEs, then work on the AoE spellblade into a 3 skill combo that triggers Verflare/Verholy, then make Verflare and Verholy AoEs (with falling damage of course).

Other than that, SAM has the most engaging AoE I've probably experienced. I wish it was like that for other jobs. Like I wish BRD's Quick Nock combo'd with Wide Volley (that's less TP and more damage) instead of removing it. Same for DRG's Ring of Thorns but honestly this is because I like the animation lol.

Wouldn't water spells be banned from red mages due to when's lore

[D_C]

Yar, Red Mage AoE bein' dull as dishwater s'why I play BLM most. An' what keeps me from enjoyin' other DPS now too. Definitely spoiled.

How 'bout Enchanted Moulinet givin a stack of ehm, insert fancy soundin' word here, an' at 3 stacks verholy/verflare become AoE at reduced potency.

Ya just can't make AoE on any class be as cool as BLM, but ya can still do better. Make Bardsong procs happen when Quick Knock crits two or more targets. There are lotsa options ta make it more fun. They done lots ta make single target shite more engagin' but AoE ain't gettin' enough love.

[Darkkos]

I think RDM Aoes is just perfect for Stormblood content. In most of the trash pull now, theres always one mob or 2 that is stronger than the other. If you want the best "Aoe dps input" , you need to mix both single target and aoe together while using every ocd you have between spell on that stronger mob.

[Zfz]

I also find RDM AOE fine. Other jobs aren't much more engaging. Besides, AOE situations end quickly anyway (or they're supposed to) and making it too involved just means you rarely get to finish the whole "chain" of abilities, leaving a bad taste in the mouth. I think AOE chains should be simple chains that that end at 3 GCDs. SAM AOE chain is one that I wished was shorter.

[Ilan]

As if any AOE's would be more interesting. Especially the melee AOE's come often with a high cd/have requirements and cost way to much compared to the damage they do.

RDM is quite nice since you don't have really high costs and except of moulinet no special requirements.

[LunarEmerald]

As if any AOE's would be more interesting. Especially the melee AOE's come often with a high cd/have requirements and cost way to much compared to the damage they do.

RDM is quite nice since you don't have really high costs and except of moulinet no special requirements.

Samurai has very strong aoes. It just drains their TP within a few gcds. But in those gcds they melt enemies.

[Ilan]

Samurai has very strong aoes. It just drains their TP within a few gcds. But in those gcds they melt enemies.

Thats exactly my point. The costs are extremly high and you'll be pretty often out of TP. RDM does a bit less dmg but will never stop doing aoe's because he doesn't have any mana issues.