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  1. #21
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    GospelVhae's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceallach View Post
    For one thing, you shouldn't try to double weave Fleche and Contre Sixte. The animation lock slows down your global cooldown, and that's never good.
    No, it doesn't
    https://youtu.be/dBC-IknFYFc
    Not my video

    I also have insane lag on non-savage instances - which is what I suspect as to why his GCDs were delayed when he dual weaved Fleche and CS
    Swiftcast is useful for extended movement/fishing for procs
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    Last edited by GospelVhae; 09-06-2017 at 02:50 AM.

  2. #22
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    Ceallach Ruarc
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    Quote Originally Posted by GospelVhae View Post
    No, it doesn't
    https://youtu.be/dBC-IknFYFc
    Not my video

    I also have insane lag on non-savage instances - which is what I suspect as to why his GCDs were delayed when he dual weaved Fleche and CS
    Swiftcast is useful for extended movement/fishing for procs
    It always slowed mine down. And if this isn't your video, you can't really say what helps this or not, can you?
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    Lujate Fiona
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    You spend an awful lot of time at range. You should spend most of your time in melee distance so you get auto attacks with each dualcast.
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    Really? I've heard a lot of hate for RDM's being in mêlée range.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceallach View Post
    For one thing, you shouldn't try to double weave Fleche and Contre Sixte. The animation lock slows down your global cooldown, and that's never good.
    I double weave just fine as well. Try to avoid sps in favor of DH/CRIT/DET.

    A few little tips while I sit on break at work:

    Role Skills:
    Lucid Dreaming, Addle, Swiftcast, Diversion and Manashift. If doing V4s prog, Surecast in place of Manashift.

    Why not Apoc or Erase? Although both feel like you're helping to support the party, they dont actually contribute to DPS. Swiftcast is a dps gain. Manashift can extend foes by up to 9 seconds or give healers a couple extra GCDs until Lucid/other mana opportunities. Addle is potent in AoE and single target situations, a flexible instant mitigation worth bringing. Diversion. I was sooo against using it, but its a necessary evil. RDM is just too powerful on openers to leave to a lucid 1 second into the fight (costing you min/max dps delaying ogcd dps skills.)

    Opener and proc management:
    You can pick either VerThunder or VerAero. Just pick the one that fits your flavor. Im a thunder kinda guy ; 3.

    10 second pull macro starts
    9 seconds- Acceleration
    7 Seconds- Diversion
    5 seconds- Hardcast VerThunder [Verfire proc 100%]
    0 seconds- Insta-VerAero [Verstone proc 50%]
    Ogcd1-Fleche Ogcd2-Contra
    Proc System management kicks in


    Hardcast Verfire--- If no Verstone proc, Cast VerAero to fish for a Verstone to msintain balance, Cast Verthunder to fish for another fire if you got a VerStone proc already from opener.

    If you receive no Procs after your initial accelerated verfire, Swifcast VerAero/Thunder for the one with the lower mana. If again no proc, revert to jolt/Jolt II. Use impact when you have neither a stone or fire proc or if your mana would become imbalanced using stone/fire. Example being: 50W/79B with a fire and impact proc. Impact-> VerAero brings you to 65W/79B with a 50% chance to give you a verstone. Much more balanced mana. If your mana deviates by 30 points from eachother the losing side has its mana gain cut in half.


    First lets do some evaluations. What is dps? Damage per second right? So abilities that deal the most damage per cool down time should be prioritized first. Namely, Fleche and Contre. If youre really wanting to improve, write out each abilities potency and divide by its CD. I dont have my little sheet anymore with my calcs but its pretty simple.

    1. Fleche
    2. Contre
    3. Displacement (Very close to corps and although its dps potential IS HIGHER the range limitation makes it worth less than corps on opener priority.
    4. Corps (Read above)
    5. Swiftcast -> Verthunder/VerAero
    6. Manashift the BARD, if no bard, save for healers/SMN.
    6. Acceleration (Accel is tough because it enures a 30 potency gain on your next hardcast, but there was a 50% chance it was going to gain that 30, therefre its only 15.

    To simplify the opener im just going to call a fodder spell like jolt,impact, stone, fire HARDCAST and Insta VerAero/Thunder INSTA BIG SPELL so I can explain OGCD placement.


    Personal DPS OPENER (No Ninja)

    10 second pull macro starts
    9 seconds- Acceleration
    7 Seconds- Diversion
    5 seconds- Hardcast VerThunder [Verfire proc 100%]
    0 seconds- Insta-VerAero [Verstone proc 50%]
    Ogcd1-Fleche Ogcd2-Contra
    HARDCAST
    INSTACAST BIG SPELL
    Ogcd1-Corps
    Ogcd2-Manashift Bard
    HARDCAST
    INSTACAST BIG SPELL
    Ogcd1-Displacement
    HARDCAST
    INSTACAST BIG SPELL
    Ogcd1- Manafiction.
    Ogcd2-Corps
    Riposte
    TIGHT Ogcd- embolden
    Zer
    Redouble
    Ogcd- Displacement
    Verholy or Flare.

    When choosing between the two, if your mana wont shoot past 30 from eachother both are near equal) and you already have the proc of your lowest mana, 20% fish for the other one. Example: 19W/20B with a stone proc. Verflare for a chance of a fireproc, then verstone to demarginalize the mana difference.


    Running out of time! Please don't ever open with VerCure for dual cast. You lose 240 potency minimum if you have even 2 seconds to hardcast! You can use vercure during the fight during boss invulns or look aways, since you cant precast their return!

    Manashift whenever you can spare the ogcd and mp for your aoe samming healer.

    Make an effort to move in between each ogcd weave, inching closer back into healing range, after each displacement.

    Be in melee when you can but dont cause extra AoE for the melee.

    Also, take these pointers with a grain of salt. Certain fights and comps cause you to change your opener slightly. Just general direction to increase the depth of the class.

    Hope this helps someone!
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 09-07-2017 at 10:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceallach View Post
    It always slowed mine down. And if this isn't your video, you can't really say what helps this or not, can you?
    Depends on your ping, you can get away with it easily if its low enough, I can do it pretty safely. If its high, best to just weave in one oGCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    Depends on your ping, you can get away with it easily if its low enough, I can do it pretty safely. If its high, best to just weave in one oGCD.
    That's probably it, then. Thanks.
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Not too sure where to ask so I'll just ask here:

    After I use Manafication and Embolden for my opener, how should I use it then? Do I hold both until the next 40-50/40-50 mana, or just use it on cooldown where it could cause a non-guaranteed VerHoly/VerFlare proc?
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    You can also set the hotbars to cycle only ones with stuff slotted in them by tapping the R1 button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Also does anyone know how to set up a separate hotbar so I can track my oGCDs (if it's even possible to do so on a controller setup)? I think that is one of my biggest issue because I cant tell when their timers have refreshed so I can cast them again immediately so I can minimize clipping.
    Watch all this
    Step1: https://youtu.be/_xsqL68V8CI
    Step2: https://youtu.be/gwgCkfjqYNQ
    Step3: https://youtu.be/-aT2X5iwocQ
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    Last edited by Zol_blade; 09-13-2017 at 02:40 PM.

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