Disciple of Magic Tank?

[Beelz]

I see the points everyone is making, and they are good ones.

In response to Tint directly: Absolutely Paladin and especially Dark Knight use magic in their jobs; and as I understand it, MP is even the Dark Knight's main currency instead of TP. But, I'm leaning more towards an esthetic mage class who is also a Tank. Paladins and Dark Knights still wield swords however, and what I would like to see is a Tank that is strictly a disciple of magic. The Psychic job could use headgear as their main weapon, equipping sick ass magitech to their heads in order to focus their telepathic powers. They shoot beams, could be more mobile than the other classes (with skills and techniques that mitigate its flaws), and put up walls - maybe they could have a literal ability to section off a portion of the field that enemies can't cross and negates all area of effect damage/statuses while inside it.

The Psychic class would be like a Tank version of an Arcanist. It hits with dots, AoEs, and super effective status ailments/debuffs. All the while giving out a passive aura of protection on people close to them, keeping allies from taking damage and avoiding decimating status effects or mechanics. It's Limit Break 3 could be like some time reversal: after it casts, it resets all team member's health, raises all fallen allies, resets everybody's timers like nothing happened, even reset the Limit Gauge so it can be immediately followed up by a second Limit Break (barring the Tank from executing it a second time). An almost meta-tier protection, where not even the games own mechanics and rules break through. Oh, the boss is casting it's special and we're all underprepared? Psychic job swoops in, breaks the game, and your entire party dodges the unavoidable, field-wide attack without a scratch.

This is the vision I have: Tank executes Limit Break 3... finishes casting... static quickly flickers over the screen, and it all goes dark for a second before "turning back on" and everybody is 100% okay.

On top of everything else, think of the story potential. Plot potential. Maybe we're introduced to the job by a team of Psychics who say they can travel dimensions. This is not unthinkable, given the lore of Eorzea. They say that while in this dimension, they want to recruit more people to go along with them. They teach you the basics of the job, then thrust you into a vortex that spits you out into another dimension (read: dungeon). What fun we could have with that! A Stargate in Eorzea with the power to travel dimensions using the aether. Lots of opportunities.

And like... yes, all of these functions could fall into the category of what a "Blue Mage" is. I'm not denying that. I'm trying to make the argument that Blue Mage might just be a little too close to heart (and close to Red Mages...) for fans of Final Fantasy. But here, in this obscure game that a lot of fans would outright say they don't like or have never cared to play, rises a mountain of new opportunities in the Psychic class. And if you think the two are similar enough that you might enjoy its play style if but under a different name, then why not give it a shot? And give newer or more ignorant fans of the series something fresh to play and fall in love with. And if the worst you can say about the job is "I wish it was a Blue Mage" then to that I say: mission accomplished, boys.

[Shippuu]

super effective status ailments/debuffs. All the while giving out a passive aura of protection on people close to them, keeping allies from taking damage and avoiding decimating status effects or mechanics.

Congrats, you just made a tank that outclasses all the other ones and makes them entirely inferior. And that's not even touching your completely broken idea of a new tank LB3.

I for one am glad you're not involved in the decision making for new jobs because your idea is a mess. This is the most ridiculous thing I've read with my own eyes regarding a job idea and my sanity dictates you have to be trolling.

[Beelz]

Congrats, you just made a tank that outclasses all the other ones and makes them entirely inferior. And that's not even touching your completely broken idea of a new tank LB3.

I for one am glad you're not involved in the decision making for new jobs because your idea is a mess. This is the most ridiculous thing I've read with my own eyes regarding a job idea and my sanity dictates you have to be trolling.

I'm making a proposal to highlight the benefits of the job. This discussion process requires an exchange of ideas in order to grow and come to fruition. Obviously the next step is to find ways to balance the abilities with cooldowns and other restrictions. It would force players to concentrate on resource management, and if you screw up or don't know what you're doing, you die in a single tankbuster and your party wipes.

What are some other suggestions in expanding the Psychic mechanic?

[Sandpark]

PLD- Close range Phys & Magic Tank
DRK- Close range Phys & Magic Tank
WAR- Close range Phys Tank

1.All scale off VIT. So make it fair and scale it off that or make it original and scale off something else.
2.We need a ranged PHY and MAG tank so consider that.
3.This game's MO is lots of jobs so the question is are these new jobs going to be flavors of each other or drastically different without being broken.

I expect when it is all said and done at some point for XIV to have 25-30 DOW/DOM

[Beelz]

Yes, all the current Tanks are close rang and mostly physical, and they sort of need to be, because that is how we understand Tanks to work. Is it possible to have a ranged Tank or a Magic-only Tank just by the very nature of how Tanks have to work?

I think we need to explore what it means to tank a raid or dungeon. Your role is gather enemies, hold their enmity, keep them from moving, and soaking up damage so you don't die right away. I argue all of those things can be accomplished without dumping everything into VIT. A Psychic would be powered by INT or MND. They could use their telepathic power to set down a beacon or projection of themselves that draws aggro and stays stationary. The would give this class the unique opportunity to be the most mobile of the Tank classes.

But in context of having a mechanic to both challenge and reward the player, this clone would have a time limit or a health bubble that will pop after time, and all that enmity comes back to you. And that's bad, because they would wear light armor, like comfortable cyber-punk clothes. Because they aren't supposed to get hit, why bother with heavy armor? You haven't been investing in VIT, so you're squishy, barely breaching the 20,000s in HP at level 70. You'd have to really manage your spells and cast timers to make sure you're providing enough buffs, doing enough damage, holding all the enmity and making sure your hologram doesn't run out of juice so you can keep doing those things for your allies.

And if you do your job right, and you're on top of your cooldowns, and the Healers don't have to worry about healing you, they can focus on other teammates who might need more help, or pump out crucial damage in their downtime.

[Shippuu]

A tank that doesn't wear fending armor and use tank stats is likely never going to happen in this game. Adding more types of gear into already polluted loot pools is something they will strongly resist doing. The same goes for having different roles share gear. There's a reason that out of 9 dps jobs none of them wear healer or tank gear.

Having a tank that's squishy and meant to completely avoid damage is something impossibly hard to balance in the first place, they already have a hard time balancing the existing tanks that are all very similar to each other.

Your idea is just continuously all over the place and simply isn't feasible in the reality of the situation.

[Zol_blade]

I know what class your asking.....
I can only thing of one but it's not final fantasy.
So, here it is...
https://youtu.be/l5aFt8GtlDA

[Isala]

Isala
When I think about it yea, in the other big mmo, druids wear leather, and at some point, warlock transforming into overpowered demons could have eventually evolved into a tank spec (it might even be the case now, havent logged in there for more than a year XD)

Actually, something worse happened. They created the Demon Hunter class, gave them a transformation, and ripped it completely away from Warlocks. That's not to say the DH wasn't fun. But man, it felt pretty bad to be a former Lock main and get crapped on. I LIKED tanking in DA...

[Tigore]

If we were to have another different mechanic tank class with similar ideas, I am thinking using Blue Mage and Beast Master abilities might be best. The only way I can think of for allowing a tank player to be ranged at times would be to use a pet to stabilize hate / aggro for you. Just simply having a separate pet may be too fussy on controls since we already have slow AI with Summoners and Scholars. Something more might be needed like FF6 Gau's Leap ability to mount the pet and control their movements to get them out of fire. It might also end up being a class having 2 GCD timers for your character and the pet. Also so you don't just keep rezzing the pet to cheese mechanics, an aether bond sharing health between the 2 may be needed as well. As for pet choices to tame, Behemoths (Tank Stance) and Coeurls (DPS Stance) come to mind at the moment. If those pets aren't wanted, we could probably have a "glamor" thing for changing what your tank or DPS pet is. The mounting could also contribute to increasing the threat / enmity generated by the pet while dismounting frees you up to cast more DPS spells.

It's a long shot for this idea since I imagine this could be very difficult to program.

[Beelz]

Although I'm partial to my Psychic idea, and still feel like it could work without over burdening the game, I would love the idea of a Beast Master over a Blue Mage. Summons/Pets are cool, and it sucks that the arcanist job is the only job that leads to that mechanic. A TP-based Beast Master who could also ride their pet/mount during combat would be awesome!