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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Their example was of Jolt then Verthunder. All I said was I can pre-cast verthunder and even agreed later on it can be useful now that I look at it... But thanks for repeated what I already agreed to.
    omg...ok if this is needed to explain better here goes:

    proper pull:
    5-second pre-pull Verthunder
    on pull dualcast Veraero
    hardcast jolt
    dualcast verthunder
    swiftcast veraero
    continue normal rotation

    Swiftcast on rdm is a standard part of your rotation.
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    Dungeon aggro lost on SAM/RDM tends to usually be because they are single targeting in a pretty large "you should AoE" here situation. In raids not using Diversion/Lucid when appropriate tends to lead themselves getting killed if they put up respectable DPS.

    It used to be pretty annoying in earlier dungeons with no stances, before they buffed tank aggro
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    Though to be fair if you're in a pre-30 dungeon and they take hate on one mob, who cares? They'll be fine. You'll be fine. The healer will be fine. Anyone can tank a single trash mob at that level.
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    I play DRK is every expert roulette ... I never lose aggro to a RDM ... ever. Check your latency/opener combo?

    Just for reference. I use Unmend, leap. After that depends on the size of the group, I will either use abyssal drain x3 for larger groups (mainly to help with healing), then use 1 normal aoe (forget the name off the top of my head). After this combo, I never have to use another aggro combo until the mobs die (except for bosses).
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    Last edited by Nyxn607; 09-03-2017 at 05:40 AM. Reason: added rotation
    "If you walk through life thinking you are not needed, remember that there is always someone that is counting on you." -CP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    omg...ok if this is needed to explain better here goes:

    proper pull:
    5-second pre-pull Verthunder
    on pull dualcast Veraero
    hardcast jolt
    dualcast verthunder
    swiftcast veraero
    continue normal rotation

    Swiftcast on rdm is a standard part of your rotation.
    That doesn't work if you get lucky. Also where is the acceleration? at some points you have to put swiftcast on hold if your using that + getting lucky right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    That doesn't work if you get lucky. Also where is the acceleration? at some points you have to put swiftcast on hold if your using that + getting lucky right?
    Yes, don't use it if you have full procs up. Also didn't include acceleration or any other ogcds, I wasn't intending for this to be a complete rdm guide
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    Yeah, I'm a warrior. I've heard the legends of the suicidal order of magic casters known as the red mages. According to myth, a red mage will unleash incredibly powerful magics against dangerous foes, and will in turn be killed: But they die with deranged smiles on their face while cackling about spiking something called a 'meter.' Well, I was pretty nervous about guarding these death-seeking madmen against their own worst instincts, when suddenly the solution seemed clear to me: If I use overpower three or four times instead of once or twice, it somehow encourages the red lemmings to stay alive longer! And if I use butcher's block more than once on a boss, for some reason they don't turn around to squash the crimson clad kamikazes! Now, I travel across the land teaching these secrets to my fellow guardians. And it's with no small amount of pride that I say the red mages have gone from an endangered species to a flourishing tribe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Yeah, I'm a warrior. I've heard the legends of the suicidal order of magic casters known as the red mages. According to myth, a red mage will unleash incredibly powerful magics against dangerous foes, and will in turn be killed: But they die with deranged smiles on their face while cackling about spiking something called a 'meter.' Well, I was pretty nervous about guarding these death-seeking madmen againsttheir own worst instincts, when suddenly the solution seemed clear to me: If I use overpower three or four times instead of once or twice, it somehow encourages the red lemmings to stay alive longer! And if I use butcher's block more than once on a boss, for some reason they don't turn around to squash the crimson clad kamikazes! Now, I travel across the land teaching these secrets to my fellow guardians. And it's with no small amount of pride that I say the red mages have gone from an endangered species to a flourishing tribe.
    that is funny as hell +1
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