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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
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    Aquapolis needs to be more accessible now that we've got Lost Canals of Uznair

    So I'm realizing that not only are things like the New World Set and the Cashmere Set literally disappearing from the Market Boards, but when they are there these pieces of gear are selling more than any of the new Stormblood glamour. I've discovered that there's two major reasons behind this: A) Most of these glamours have items that only drop in Aquapolis and B) Items like Fine Alumen which only comes from specific FC house voyages. While the obscurity of Aquapolis runs can and probably will be something that is fixed in a later patch, the utter lack of an alternate way to get Fine Alumen is it's own beast entirely, and because of it I suggest several fixes that could happen in order to prevent Aquapolis from being more popular than the new Lost Canals of Uznair.

    Fixing Aquapolis:
    • Make the Master Thief's Map a Scrip vendor item or a Tome of Verity item
    • Make the items specific to Aquapolis available for purchase from GC seal vendors (20,000 seals per item)
    • Make the Master Thief Map purchasable from both GC seal and Hunt Vendors (100 Centurio Marks/5000 seals).

    Fixing Airship Voyage Specific Items:
    • Have these items tied to a weekly mission drop from Adventurer Squadrons. Doing so will revive this old content and entice players who have not completed it to finally sit down and get it done.
    • Have these items drop in the Aquapolis if you fixed made the fix to make the Master Thief Map more available.
    • Make these items available through tomes of verity or scrips
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    magnanimousCynic's Avatar
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Or we can just remove the level sync from Aquapolis, that will get more people to do it.
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    I was the Almighty Enkidu for April Fools 2017.

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    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Or we can just remove the level sync from Aquapolis, that will get more people to do it.
    How about scale it up for level 70? Assuming everyone in the party is level 70. If not, it syncs down to 60. That could work too.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
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    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Or we can just remove the level sync from Aquapolis, that will get more people to do it.
    But Aquapolis is already easy as it is.
    I assume it's just that people don't like the RNG.
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    There's nothing wrong with some piece of glamour being rare and taking some time/resources to earn. I'd be thrilled if they kept aquapolis relevant by keeping some rare items/glamours obtainable from there only.

    But I'm pretty sure that whatever the new PotD thing is they've got planned will have pieces of old world and wool tops dropping like penny candy, much like Thavnairian and moonfire gear did, and make all of it absolutely worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    But Aquapolis is already easy as it is.
    I assume it's just that people don't like the RNG.
    I'm pretty sure it's because of the RNG of both the Aquapolis spawning and the depth you can go to is determined by chance. Making the Master Thief's Map attainable by players would ensure the spawning of the Aquapolis and cut down on the annoying part of the RNG that doesn't require a party to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    There's nothing wrong with some piece of glamour being rare and taking some time/resources to earn. I'd be thrilled if they kept aquapolis relevant by keeping some rare items/glamours obtainable from there only.

    But I'm pretty sure that whatever the new PotD thing is they've got planned will have pieces of old world and wool tops dropping like penny candy, much like Thavnairian and moonfire gear did, and make all of it absolutely worthless.
    That's how it should be, this is old content and it serves no one to make the Aquapolis more beneficial to run than the Lost Canals of Uznair.
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    The problem for me isn't that "it takes time to earn" it's that NO ONE will run it with me and it's not soloable. I can not get Ginkgo trees for my house in any way other than dropping 400k on one because even when I buy the maps myself, and tell people I'll let them have all drops besides the tree no one wants to run it. It needs adjustment.
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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    Meru Maru
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    Moreso the problem is map gathering is still an 18hr lockout whether dragonskin, gazellskin, or leather.

    Aquapolis is pretty easy to duo as tank/healer though. Most of the rollable drops are worth a lot more than Canal drops too.
    But 100% agree all the glamour stuff is just going to get nerfed with new PotD, so the real issue is getting music rolls and trees.

    Also I wouldn't even bother trying to change the FC airship stuff. Fine Alumen is readily obtainable to any FC-owned house, and it'll just dunk in rarity even more when Shirogane comes out.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    this is old content and it serves no one to make the Aquapolis more beneficial to run than the Lost Canals of Uznair.
    It serves no one to make old content beneficial to run? Where did you get this idea? I mean, granted, I know they're going to make it hilariously irrelevant likely as soon as 4.1 drops, but for now I still duo Aquapolis with a friend of mine. I still do canals as well so it's a nice bit of variety, if only for monsters and scenery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    -snip-
    That's a consequence of FFXIV's community largely having a bizarre aversion to tackling older content on a whim. It's a real shame - because I have very fond memories of going back and doing older content regularly with friends back when I played WoW. Sometimes for the sake of nostalgia, other times to hunt down a specific piece of gear or make some coin. In other cases it was merely to help a friend see it for themselves.

    I'd love to do POTD 100-200, for instance, but finding a group of players to do it with is ridiculously difficult. The same can be said of trying to get some people together to do Coil (Savage) for the thrill of it. If it's so difficult on a bustling server such as Balmung I dread to think what it's lie for smaller servers...
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