The rising 2017 - Discrimination

[HyoMinPark]

That is a Phobia they are not a medical condition they are not a disability because of the fact that they can be cured. Disability can not be. i sympathize for him but it wasn't a real situation.

Are you familiar with the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders? Phobias are mental illnesses--mental disabilities--and they are still considered medical disabilities even if they are more of a psychological nature as opposed to a physical nature. Real situation or not, simulations are still more than capable of inducing and triggering the disorder. You can argue semantics if you want, but mental illnesses are still considered disabilities. They are not any more or any less more "important" or "real" than physical disabilities. Don't try to belittle another disability just because it doesn't match yours (or your personal definition of what a disability is), or because they can be "cured."

Well they are more than willing to comment on my own disabilities and all of these things you have listed that i have done these people have done themselves - so you might want to re-address this to them - or you can just pretend i am the bad guy - i don't care

Considering that you keep insisting your disability is important enough to demand special treatment, even when others affected from the same disability have come here to report that they had absolutely no issues with the puzzle and that they do not consider it discriminatory at all...

[Ariochie9771]

Phobias are mental illnesses--mental disabilities--and they are still considered medical disabilities

They technically are not a disability because they can be cured. . . i believe i have said this quite a few times

[HyoMinPark]

They technically are not a disability because they can be cured. . . i believe i have said this quite a few times

They are still considered a disability. Even if they are more "temporary" or can be "cured." And again, doesn't make them any more or any less important than physical disabilities.

I'm done arguing with you. I don't have time to discuss this with someone who thinks that the definition of a disability is something that is incurable or that can't be treated. Have a wonderful evening.

[Ariochie9771]

They are still considered a disability. And again, doesn't make them any more or any less important than physical disabilities.

OMG Definition of disability - A physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities. One that can not be cured and will remain with that person through out their life time. This is from the Oxford Dictionaries (LOL)

I'm done arguing with you. I don't have time to discuss this with someone who thinks that the definition of a disability is something that is incurable or that can't be treated. Have a wonderful evening.

again it is (LOL)- and yes i will have a wonderful evening you have a wonderful evening as-well.

Also Masekase - there are in game support options available for people with certain disabilities . . .color blindness for example - in game options / settings - just shows you don't know what your talking about to be honest. And just because you chose to be ignorant of these settings / support options which ARE in the game already doesn't mean they are not there. . or available as you would say.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

OMG Definition of disability - A physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities. One that can not be cured and will remain with that person through out their life time. This is from the Oxford Dictionaries

Really? Let's see.

1. lack of adequate power, strength, or physical or mental ability; incapacity.
2. a physical or mental handicap, especially one that prevents a person from living a full, normal life or from holding a gainful job.
3. anything that disables or puts one at a disadvantage:
His mere six-foot height will be a disability in professional basketball.

A physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities.

The second definition is from the Oxford dictionary. I see no asterix that implies it must be a permanent condition. For someone arguing for sympathy and equality, you prove yourself a hypocritic by debating semantics and thereby excluding people. I also noticed you conveniently ignored my prior mention of that man with TAR syndrome. It's almost like it destroys your entire position: a person with a disability not crying and whining, demanding the world bend over for them.

[Ariochie9771]

The second definition is from the Oxford dictionary. I see no asterix that implies it must be a permanent condition. For someone arguing for sympathy and equality, you prove yourself a hypocritic by debating semantics and thereby excluding people. I also noticed you conveniently ignored my prior mention of that man with TAR syndrome. It's almost like it destroys your entire position: a person with a disability not crying and whining, demanding the world bend over for them.

i would love to know where you looked - because i looked at the actual word Disability - not the way it can be used. . Like for that basket ball thing that is pathetic in my opinion. People who play basket ball and are only 6ft tall are not disabled.

[HyoMinPark]

i would love to know where you looked - because i looked at the actual word Disability - not the way it can be used. . Like for that basket ball thing that is pathetic in my opinion. People who play basket ball and are only 6ft tall are not disabled.

Sigh... I said I was done arguing with you, but since you are insistent on saying that your definition of "disability" is the correct one....

A simple Google search of "disability definition":

dis·a·bil·i·ty
ˌdisəˈbilədē
noun
noun: disability; plural noun: disabilities
1. a physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities.
- synonyms: handicap, disablement, incapacity, impairment, infirmity, defect, abnormality; condition, disorder, affliction
"my disability makes getting into bed a slow process"
2. a disadvantage or handicap, especially one imposed or recognized by the law.
"he had to quit his job and go on disability"

Disability as defined by Merriam-Webster:

1. a physical, mental, cognitive, or developmental condition that impairs, interferes with, or limits a person's ability to engage in certain tasks or actions or participate in typical daily activities and interactions; also : impaired function or ability

2.
a (1) : an impairment (such as a chronic medical condition or injury) that prevents someone from engaging in gainful employment
(2) : an impairment (such as spina bifida) that results in serious functional limitations for a minor
b : a program providing financial support to a person affected by disability; also : the financial support provided by such a program

3. a disqualification, restriction, or disadvantage economic disabilities
4. lack of legal qualification to do something

"Disability" as defined by Oxford Dictionaries:

1. A physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities.
2. A disadvantage or handicap, especially one imposed or recognized by the law.

And, finally, your "definition" of what constitutes as a disability:

Yeah you are right your situation was not real - you were not forced to go to a REAL sea - I had to do an event or try to do an event which made me face my REAL disability - Also Problem, mine is a real disability not a fear. I understand you have a fear but it isn't a medically recognized disability so no matter how much you want the situations to be the same they wont be.

Also to be honest I'm not sure what your aim is all you have done is say how my disability is the same as a Fear when it isn't - a fear you can possibly get over through therapy - a disability is there for life. Also i am not attacking people - i am just making a point, and saying that a certain disability which is easy to cater for was not catered for and the event was unnecessarily hard for people who have that disability.

That is a Phobia they are not a medical condition they are not a disability because of the fact that they can be cured. Disability can not be. i sympathize for him but it wasn't a real situation.

OMG Definition of disability - A physical or mental condition that limits a person's movements, senses, or activities. One that can not be cured and will remain with that person through out their life time. This is from the Oxford Dictionaries (LOL)

Nowhere in any of the three definitions I provided (with sources) does it state that a disability has to be a permanent, incurable and non-treatable condition. My definitions include your Oxford defintion, which, lo-and-behold, there is no attachment to the end of it dictating that a "disability" is only that which can be considered incurable and non-treatable. Which brings me back to my original point that physical disabilities are not the only form of disability. Mental and cognitive disabilities count as well, and this includes things such as: phobias, anxiety disorders, mood disorders, eating disorders, somatoform disorders, learning disorders, personality disorders...the list goes on. Since you know so much about dyslexia, you should know that it is classified as a cognitive/learning disability, and is recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition as a Specific Learning Disorder. All of the disorders listed in the DSM-5 are medically recognized conditions, and can be considered as disabilities, especially in the legal sense of the term.

I would also like to add that just because some of these disorders can be treated (e.g., with the use of medication and/or therapy) does not mean that they can necessarily be "cured". Some people struggle with anxiety disorders, mood disorders, phobias, etc., for the entirety of their lives. Does that seem "curable" to you? Or are the only disabled individuals the ones that aren't "cured" of their phobias and/or disorders the only considered truly disabled, where as those who are "cured" of theirs are not?

The fact that you continue to insist that only permanent, incurable, and non-treatable disabilities are the only kind of applicable disabilities is proof of your own ignorance. I would suggest you educate yourself on all the conditions that apply under the term "disability" before coming here to bash other's conditions, and insist that yours are more important than theirs.


The tools for you to solve the puzzle may not be in-game, but they are still there. Stop being so prideful and turn to others for help if you're struggling. Like Makasase said, just because you refuse to make use of the tools there (in-game or outside of it) does not mean that they are not there. And while we're on that topic, since you keep insisting there are in-game tools to provide for other's disabilities, let's return to the discussion of colorblind individuals. There is no colorblind mode implemented in-game for FFXIV. The only "colorblind mode" options are provided by external or third-party software. So please explain to me how SE and FFXIV are catering to colorblind individuals when there are no in-game tools implemented to assist them. While FFXIV does have in-game tools to assist deaf individuals (a simple glance at the Accessibility options under System Configuration shows that the only options are visual cues for the audibly impaired), it does not have tools to assist with conditions such as colorblindness.

The way a lot of people learn to live with and cope with their disabilities is to accept them, and find ways to go about their lives with the conditions--not demanding that they receive special treatment for them, or feeling like they are entitled to such special treatment more so over other individuals. Others with dyslexia have came to this thread and told you already that they had no issues with the simple, optional piece of content that was The Rising puzzle, yet you still continue to act as if you speak for the entire dyslexic community. You had troubles; that's okay. But perhaps you would do better to accept it and move on rather than come here and complain, whilst simultaneously attacking others that would be far more sympathetic to your cause if you weren't so abrasive about the entire situation, or if you didn't sit there and say that "your disability is curable and/or didn't involve a real place, so it isn't real and doesn't count as a disability."

I would suggest looking up the legal definitions for disability, as well as reading up on the plethora of information that is available out there regarding it, before coming here to preach about what a disability actually is.