The rising 2017 - Discrimination

[Ariochie9771]

Okay, what do you suggest Square does about this issue without violating the integrity of the puzzle itself?

Well for other disabilities there are systems in place - all i am saying is there should have been for this one - possibly color co-ordinate it matching numbers, letters and colors - would have made it easier. There are a lot of solutions for this issue for people with the same disability as myself - but none of these were implemented - that is my issue, i just want to know why they were not. And it would not have been violating the integrity of the puzzle itself at all.

[HyoMinPark]

Well for other disabilities there are systems in place - all i am saying is there should have been for this one - possibly color co-ordinate it matching numbers, letters and colors - would have made it easier. There are a lot of solutions for this issue for people with the same disability as myself - but none of these were implemented - that is my issue, i just want to know why they were not. And it would not have been violating the integrity of the puzzle itself at all.

Okay, and this solution would not work for individuals suffering from complete color-blindness, which I believe a poster in this thread commented that they suffer from. It may also pose issues for individuals that have specific color-blindness. What about them, then? Your solution to cater to these two specific disabilities inherently makes things difficult for another subset of specific disabilities.

The accusation that this puzzle is discriminatory against individuals with dyslexia and/or dyscalculia is absurd. I am pretty close to legally blind. I struggled to read the small white print on gray background for some of the numbers and letters, but you don't see me coming here to demand SE cater to my disability. Instead, I spent a little extra time on the puzzle, and guess what? I got it done. There's no time limit on the time you have to complete the puzzle once you start it; use different techniques to make it easier on you, or, better yet, ask someone for help. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online game, and there are plenty of friendly people in-game that would have no issue helping you out. Heck, you could have made a thread on here or reddit with screenshots of the first and second floor and asked posters for help, saying that you were having issues telling the difference between some of the characters.

There's no shame asking individuals for help, whether you have a disability or not. There is shame in demanding a company cater to your specific disability though. There's nothing wrong with content being accessible and easy for all individuals, disabled or not. But it is downright nearly impossible to try and cater to all disabilities without excluding others (see what I said above about your solution to color-code the numbers and letters). There are people out there who have disabilities, and instead of playing the victim and demanding special treatment and/or sympathy, they embrace their disabilities for what they are, and find ways to live as close to normally as they possibly can.

Also, if you want to start demanding sympathy and specially treatment for your condition, you should probably refrain from trying to trivialize other's conditions. No one is more or less entitled to "special treatment" over others. What may seem "silly" to you (the individual's phobia of being underwater making The Ruby Sea particularly difficult for them) is not silly to another person. So stop trying to trivialize them. Phobias and extreme phobias are classified as valid medical and mental health conditions. Whether the trigger is simulated or real or whatever, doesn't make them any less real for someone who has them.

[Ariochie9771]

Okay, and this solution would not work for individuals suffering from complete color-blindness.

Thay have got systems in place already for this and that is a fact - and also there would be two other ways that that person would be able to get the correct answer by using the letters and the numbers - where as I and others with the same disability could use the colors - so yes it would work for everyone.

shame in demanding a company cater to your specific disability though.

I am sorry but The company caters for so many disabilities, i just want to know why this one was not catered for

the individual's phobia of being underwater making The Ruby Sea particularly difficult for them.

That is a Phobia they are not a medical condition they are not a disability because of the fact that they can be cured. Disability can not be. i sympathize for him but it wasn't a real situation.

[HyoMinPark]

That is a Phobia they are not a medical condition they are not a disability because of the fact that they can be cured. Disability can not be. i sympathize for him but it wasn't a real situation.

Are you familiar with the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders? Phobias are mental illnesses--mental disabilities--and they are still considered medical disabilities even if they are more of a psychological nature as opposed to a physical nature. Real situation or not, simulations are still more than capable of inducing and triggering the disorder. You can argue semantics if you want, but mental illnesses are still considered disabilities. They are not any more or any less more "important" or "real" than physical disabilities. Don't try to belittle another disability just because it doesn't match yours (or your personal definition of what a disability is), or because they can be "cured."

Well they are more than willing to comment on my own disabilities and all of these things you have listed that i have done these people have done themselves - so you might want to re-address this to them - or you can just pretend i am the bad guy - i don't care

Considering that you keep insisting your disability is important enough to demand special treatment, even when others affected from the same disability have come here to report that they had absolutely no issues with the puzzle and that they do not consider it discriminatory at all...

[Ariochie9771]

I am pretty close to legally blind, I struggled to read the small white print on gray background for some of the numbers and letters, but you don't see me coming here to demand SE cater to my disability

I feel bad for you for this i do - but you are being catered for already and you know this. . . .in game there are ways to change the text size to a more appropriate size and a way to change the text color to something more suitable for your specific needs. . . so you ARE being catered for.

[Dualgunner]

Well for other disabilities there are systems in place - all i am saying is there should have been for this one - possibly color co-ordinate it matching numbers, letters and colors - would have made it easier. There are a lot of solutions for this issue for people with the same disability as myself - but none of these were implemented - that is my issue, i just want to know why they were not. And it would not have been violating the integrity of the puzzle itself at all.

Color coordination would exclude people who are colorblind. What then? What do you say for the colorblind dyslexic people out there?

[LunaFaye]

Color coordination would exclude people who are colorblind. What then? What do you say for the colorblind dyslexic people out there?

I guess we colorblind ask the "real" dyslexic's to help us with the event

[Vorlonshadow]

Come on guys. I also have dyslexia all I did was out the letters in fc chat and in seconds it was solved also the numbers correspond to the letter and in the same order even with dyslexia you can do thus easily

[Vorlonshadow]

Come on guys. I also have dyslexia all I did was shout the letters in fc chat and in seconds it was solved also the numbers correspond to the letter and in the same order even with dyslexia you can do this easily

[Ariochie9771]

Come on guys. I also have dyslexia all I did was shout the letters in fc chat and in seconds it was solved also the numbers correspond to the letter and in the same order even with dyslexia you can do this easily

I am talking about both Dyslexia and Dyscalculia which means letters and numbers are the main issue - i understand you have Dyslexia and you have probably had difficulty with it at certain stages - but you have said you have dyslexia you don't have both. I am only saying that people with both disabilities should have a system to rely on, like many other disabilities do - Sigh disabilities - Hearing disabilities they are all catered too.

Like i said before maybe if a Color system was also put in place for this event so that people with both disabilities could match the letters, numbers and colors not just have to rely so heavily on the letters and numbers. All i am asking is why was there not something more in place.