Why do some healers feel entitled to receiving commendations?

[Silver-Strider]

No one is entitled to them just because they did their job.

Tank held aggro
Healer didn't let anyone die (stupid people excluded)
DPS killed stuff fast.

None of that is recommendation worthy. Playing as a team by throwing out Goads/Addles/Covers/etc are what I look for and if I see it more than a couple of times throughout an instance, you're damn right I'll give them the Recommendation but often times, I just ignore the function entirely and go on my merry way after a quick "Thank you for the run" macro.

[Kohdo]

They may genuinely feel that they played quite well and they've earned the commendations. I know more than once I kept a party alive despite the odds and didn't receive commendations for it, and thought that was odd.

However, people need to realize that giving a commendation is like tipping in a restaurant that already pays its staff a wage. It's an extra nicety on top as a way of saying thanks for a job well done. It isn't required, and it sure as hell shouldn't be demanded.

[MoroMurasaki]

I think everyone has run something, felt like they carried the group and then gotten no comms and been annoyed. To say that one role is more deserving of commendations is crazy though, there are good and bad players in all roles.


In terms of one role having more stress on it than others I think it very much comes down to the stress you place on yourself. If you DPS and just aim to have a decent execution of your rotation that isn't a lot of stress; you could go above and beyond by keeping your rotation up while weaving in support abilities and managing your own aggro.

As a tank you can AoE aggro then rotate your aggro combo and never drop stance or you could mitigate through cooldowns while popping DPS stance to try to help push more damage.

Personally as a healer I feel like we have it the easiest amd the hardest - just depends on the run. If I have an amazing tank then any dungeon run is a breeze and it lets me be a better player because I can DPS more. If I have an undergeared or unskilled tank I may have to spam heal more and the stress grows, though I'd argue some of the stress I feel is self inflicted because while I'm spamming Cure II I'm annoyed that I'm unable to contribute DPS.

Also though not directly related to this I noticed someone say something about a group of healers and tanks being unable to complete a dungeon without DPS. This is just not true. I've personally done runs of current content, mostly as 3 healer 1 tank, that have been on par with the time it would take with DPS instead. PLD/AST/WHM/WHM in particular is pretty amazing. I would say you probably couldn't do this as DPS even on RDM. Tanks and healers are necessary for virtually all content, DPS are basically just necessary for things with enrage timers. Not trying to put down DPS just being realistic.

[Valinis]

Not when dpsing as a healer is pressing 1 button and heals are overpowered in easy content, so no.

If healers had complex or punishing DPS rotations on top of weak heals I'd agree with you, but that's not gonna happen.

You press one button to DPS? You must have really low DPS.

[Kazrah]

Usually I do comm healers since they have to clean up the load of vomit otherwise known as DF tanking, but most of the time, comm'ing lalas takes precedence. You know, because we need that moral support.

As for me healing, I don't care that much about getting comms mainly because I'm more likely to get comm'ed because of looks and not being obnoxious (at least not as much as I might be here). Plus I'm already past the 3k mark for comms, so it's pretty much bragging rights at this point.

[Miste]

You press one button to DPS? You must have really low DPS.

Alright, alright. Can stop with the degradation comments, this is the second time you've attempted to call her bad simply because of her opinion on healing.

I think she simply was making a point that healer DPS rotation is far less complex than a DPS job which is true.

[Aleczan]

Also though not directly related to this I noticed someone say something about a group of healers and tanks being unable to complete a dungeon without DPS. This is just not true. I've personally done runs of current content, mostly as 3 healer 1 tank, that have been on par with the time it would take with DPS instead. PLD/AST/WHM/WHM in particular is pretty amazing. .

Me. You're right and I wholeheartedly agree. But my examples were meant for pure tanks party and pure healers party. Just to demonstrate that all roles do play an important duty in a party and if you limit the party to have only one role, it adds a HUGE struggle.

[MoroMurasaki]

Not when dpsing as a healer is pressing 1 button and heals are overpowered in easy content, so no.

If healers had complex or punishing DPS rotations on top of weak heals I'd agree with you, but that's not gonna happen.

If I am putting out comperable DPS to my DPS party members as a healer while also keeping everyone healthy I do think this is commendation worthy. I understand most people aren't running parsers (much less doing so in DF dungeons which is probably just depressing) but on the off chance they are you better bet a healer healing while keeping up with DPS means the healer (and probably the tank) were doing really well.

Again not claiming to deserve them especially not for just having a certain role but if I do your job and my job and you just do yours I have more than pulled my weight, no?

[Lemuria]

I don't feel entitled to commendations for running a healer, but neither do I ever expect them as a tank or DPS. This whole idea that you should only commend certain people is a stupid idea in the first place. I commend those I feel did a good job in the run and who contributed the most to the team. I've seen some amazing DPS classes who have really pulled us out of the fire, but I've also seen some horrendous DPS who have caused the run to fail. Likewise with tanks and healers.

[Tint]

I don't give a comm to anyone unless they do something outstanding. people playing their roles well isn't outstanding to me.

it's just a click with the mouse for you and someone is a little step further towards the mounts and stuff.

i always give a commendation, except ALL people were rude or absolutely terrible players. usually to the healer, since i play mostly as tank, and i actually mean it as a "thank you" for the healing. or i give it to the melee players as a little compensation for messing up their positionals by rotating mobs too often xD (no, i don't do this on purpose, but it happens). or yes, really outstanding people will always get the commendation. or people with an awesome glamour.
but okay, i never give a commendation to a person with a stupid name like Sephiroth or Cloud, regardless of how well that person played xD

i guess since i give it too often to the healers i am a part of the problem that healers now feel entitled to get one. maybe i should stop doing that and give it more to the DDs.