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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Not when dpsing as a healer is pressing 1 button and heals are overpowered in easy content, so no.

    If healers had complex or punishing DPS rotations on top of weak heals I'd agree with you, but that's not gonna happen.
    You press one button to DPS? You must have really low DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    You press one button to DPS? You must have really low DPS.
    Alright, alright. Can stop with the degradation comments, this is the second time you've attempted to call her bad simply because of her opinion on healing.

    I think she simply was making a point that healer DPS rotation is far less complex than a DPS job which is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Alright, alright. Can stop with the degradation comments, this is the second time you've attempted to call her bad simply because of her opinion on healing.

    I think she simply was making a point that healer DPS rotation is far less complex than a DPS job which is true.
    It's not an opinion. This person is arguing that a job is easy because they are playing it lazily. By the same logic I can claim that every single DPS is extremely easy because all I have to do is push one button. Do you think I'd be a very good DPS?
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    Last edited by Valinis; 08-26-2017 at 05:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    It's not an opinion. This person is arguing that a job is easy because they are playing it lazily.
    You are just making assumptions about them. You already tried to claim they don't DPS on healer and she corrected you that she never said she doesn't. So where are you getting this information that they are playing lazily? They aren't even on the same data center as you for you to play with them.

    Also if you want another opinion, I heal and DPS on healer etc and I do not find healer difficult. I find it easy even with DPSing. That is just my opinion on it.

    I find DPS jobs harder to master for me personally, so yes it is an opinion. Some people grasp certain roles or jobs easier than others it all depends on the person. My boyfriend can play DRG very well for example, but when I try to play it I am pants on head derp, for some reason that job makes me ADHD and heck if I know why, but I can play BLM quite well while my boyfriend isn't quite as good at it.

    So yeah...just relax a bit eh? Don't need to go over the deep end over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    logic, reason and courtesy
    Miste I'm always happy when you're in a thread, you help calm things down.

    Stay awesome! <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    So where are you getting this information that they are playing lazily?
    DPSing using one skill is lazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Also if you want another opinion, I heal and DPS on healer etc and I do not find healer difficult. I find it easy even with DPSing. That is just my opinion on it.
    That's great that you find healing easier than DPSing. That's your opinion. I don't agree with your opinion but for some reason I'm not allowed to defend mine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    DPSing using one skill is lazy.



    That's great that you find healing easier than DPSing. That's your opinion. I don't agree with your opinion but for some reason I'm not allowed to defend mine?
    I don't think she has an issue with you defending your opinion, more just with the disrespectful way you've expressed it. If you went about posing the same ideas without insinuating that a specific player you don't know is bad at their job I doubt it would be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    That's great that you find healing easier than DPSing. That's your opinion. I don't agree with your opinion but for some reason I'm not allowed to defend mine?
    You can defend your opinion without resorting to personal insults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You can defend your opinion without resorting to personal insults.
    Totally agree here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    DPSing using one skill is lazy.
    AST only has 3 readily available direct DPS spells or DoTs....Gravity, Combust II, and Malefic III. Lord of Crowns is RNG and normally in a dungeon unless you pulled an Ewer or Spire then you might not minor arcana; since you cannot have it 100% of the time I wouldn't take it into account for every pull.

    On an AoE pull with a lot of mobs....you spam Gravity. One DPS spell. If earthly star is up you can use it too but it is oGCD and you pretty much only need to use it once then back to spamming one button. 99% of the DPS spell usage was one button I would say that nullifies the one oGCD ES to being pretty much inconsequential because most of the time you literally are just spamming one button until healing is needed.

    As for WHM yes they have Aero III and Assize, but it is cast once then spam Holy....I mean basically most of your button presses in an AoE pull are just one button and that was the point I believe. Not that you ONLY press one button ever, just that it is the majority of your button presses for AoE pulls as the other spells you might use are one cast/one press then you just press the same button over and over for max AoE DPS afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    That's great that you find healing easier than DPSing. That's your opinion. I don't agree with your opinion but for some reason I'm not allowed to defend mine?
    Moro and HyoMin answered this quite nicely already.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Miste I'm always happy when you're in a thread, you help calm things down.

    Stay awesome! <3
    Thank you D:

    I try, but I am not perfect either. I've had some moments where I get a bit cheeky as well. It happens.
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    Last edited by Miste; 08-26-2017 at 06:19 PM.

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