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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    but if the gun did not exist in the first place human would not have it to use, same as words
    "But if the <item> did not exist..."

    People can kill with their bare hands.
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    You guys realize that the only reason these "words" are "offensive" is because a long time ago, in a land not so far away, it was the poor folks way of speaking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavani View Post
    You guys realize that the only reason these "words" are "offensive" is because a long time ago, in a land not so far away, it was the poor folks way of speaking?
    ......... go away.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Neighborly love should go jump off a cliff and die. (I'm partially kidding.)

    One should have to work to earn respect/love, like anything else.
    This is partially true.
    Everyone should respect another person and their opinions to a certain degree. Now, people lose and gain respect based on their actions. You shouldn't judge another before you know them. If you find that they are disrespectful of you or someone else, then you lose respect of them (Or rather, I hope you would) and if they do nice things and respect others than they deserve more respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavani View Post
    You guys realize that the only reason these "words" are "offensive" is because a long time ago, in a land not so far away, it was the poor folks way of speaking?
    Doesn't matter.
    You can make excuses all you want about it but, it is still mean, offensive, and rude to use such language ESPECIALLY if someone asks you not to use the word or w/e
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowen View Post
    Doesn't matter.
    You can make excuses all you want about it but, it is still mean, offensive, and rude to use such language ESPECIALLY if someone asks you not to use the word or w/e
    And if I find what you just said to be mean, rude and offensive and then ask you to not say it anymore and decide you should only say what I want you to from now on?

    Do you see where this is leading? It leads to control issues and censorship.

    Telling someone to not use words just because you don't like them is not a productive reason to stop using words - censorship and allowing yourself to be controlled only leads to one place - ignorance.

    If you are "offended" at any words, that is your own problem because you created your own problem by choosing to be "offended" at any words.

    Your feelings are your own and are not caused by anyone else but yourself and your own opinions.

    Take responsibility for your own feelings and figure out why you decided to hold the opinion that any words are "offensive" and stop expecting others to be responsible for your feelings and your opinions that they have absolutely no control over.
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    Last edited by Crica; 11-09-2011 at 12:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowen View Post
    You shouldn't judge another before you know them.
    It's normal to judge someone, even without knowing them. If I see someone on the street i've never seen before, i'll make a judgement on the spot about him based on how he looks, how he walks, what he's doing and many other things. That's very normal. People telling me not to judge, are basically telling me not to think. Now this isn't a permanent thing either, if I see that person more and he does different things that would make that original judgement wrong, then it changes.

    Also, I respect no one that I have never met, don't know, whatever. But I also don't disrespect them either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    And if I find what you just said to be mean, rude and offensive and then ask you to not say it anymore and decide you should only say what I want you to from now on?

    Do you see where this is leading? It leads to control issues and censorship.

    Telling someone to not use words just because you don't like them is not a productive reason to stop using words - censorship and allowing yourself to be controlled only leads to one place - ignorance.

    If you are "offended" at any words, that is your own problem because you created your own problem by choosing to be "offended" at any words.

    Your feelings are your own and are not caused by anyone else but yourself and your own opinions.

    Take responsibility for your own feelings and figure out why you decided to hold the opinion that any words are "offensive" and stop expecting others to be responsible for your feelings and your opinions that they have absolutely no control over.
    While this all is true, it still doesn't change that some people are hurt by certain words. I never said not to say them, I never said not to use them. The game however has rules, if you feel the name violates the rules, report it. If SE agrees, the name changes. The other thing about the game is free speech doesn't apply within.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    And if I find what you just said to be mean, rude and offensive and then ask you to not say it anymore and decide you should only say what I want you to from now on?

    Do you see where this is leading? It leads to control issues and censorship.

    Telling someone to not use words just because you don't like them is not a productive reason to stop using words - censorship and allowing yourself to be controlled only leads to one place - ignorance.

    If you are "offended" at any words, that is your own problem because you created your own problem by choosing to be "offended" at any words.

    Your feelings are your own and are not caused by anyone else but yourself and your own opinions.

    Take responsibility for your own feelings and figure out why you decided to hold the opinion that any words are "offensive" and stop expecting others to be responsible for your feelings and your opinions that they have absolutely no control over.
    Not trying to censor you but, what I am trying to say is: If someone finds a word or phrase to be offensive, don't use it in front of them at least. And you should also think as to why they might find it offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    ......... go away.....
    Why would you say that? It's hurtful and disrespectful.

    Why do people find the word S**t offensive? Well to find that out we have to tell a story and I'll try to keep it short:

    There once was a king know to his people as Edward the Confessor. He was know as this because he never wanted to be king, the poor chap just wanted to be a monk. Similarly his wife Edith of Wessex wanted to be a nun. And so it came to be that their marriage was never consummated and then he died.

    The death of a king, and no offspring to take the throne, resulted in a fierce dispute between three men. These men were, William the conqueror duke of Normady(or William the bastard), Harold Godwinson, the powerful Earl of Wessex; and the Viking King Harald III of Norway, known as Harald Hardraada.

    In what is know as the Norman Invasion there is a very important battle to take note of. The battle of Hastings. While Harald and Harold fought in the north of England, William made his way to London. After his victory over Harald, Harold heard of Williams plans, and made his way south in 5 days time. Because news happens to travel fast in these times, William heard of Harold's march from London and left the castle with his army and advanced towards the enemy.

    The actual battle took place about 7 miles from Hastings and lasted all day. After much fighting Harold II was killed in the battle. Legend has it that he was shot through the eye with an arrow because a rumor was started within the battlefield that the new king was dead! Trying to set right the rumor, like all good citizens, Harold removed his helmet and shouted to his troops that he was still alive.

    And so William the Conqueror became the king ending the Anglo-Saxon reign in England. He brought with him Frenchmen and awarded them high standing offices for their help in claiming his crown. This led to a shift in language among the high class from the Anglo-Saxon to French.

    People began to use more and more French words, because it was the language of the nobles. Because of this words that were used on a daily basis became taboo because it was not noble to speak Anglo-Saxon anymore. This is why you can help your mother spread manure but you better not call it S**T!
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