Again the regen thing! Wasn't it gone and done?

[Ilan]

When I was tanking, I never saw this as an issue. When I heal now, I do try to be mindful of it, but not because I can't but because many tanks play in a manner that prohibits it. But my view is this :

If you haven't hit them with any skills, you haven't pulled you just ran into a room full of mobs. If you hit them with a skill this isn't an issue. When I pull I am always tabbing and dropping an overpower/flash or tomahawk/shield lob at stragglers. With practice you can do so without stopping and it just makes the run easier to deal with as everyone can do whatever it is they need to do whenever they need to.

Well yes its not a problem for a tank who has experience in tanking and IF the tank sees it soon enough. For someone who has no experience it will have trouble to get hate of the mobs and we all know how it ends then.

[SturmChurro]

Or you have healers who know exactly what happens if the apply regen before the pull just to see the tank sweat.

@SturmChurro Yes you can, but lets be honest its freaking annoying if you klick that off and the healer puts it instant on you again, and yes that happens pretty often.

Granted occasionally I'll put it on and then the tank will go and pul more after a couple seconds in one group.

[Keridwyn]

This is a communication issue at heart. While a few of these are bad folks dumping out early regens, more than one of these are likely healers that thought the tank had stopped to set up shop and so put out their regen with intent to dps. Then suddenly the tank moves on causing a pregen for the next trash pack. Even with communication this might still happen, only time I know it won't happen is if I am running with tanks I know.

Mistakes happen but just straight up casting regen before pulls never should.

[Fynlar]

Can't you just right click the hot off?

Not all of us use a mouse to play. Controller player here, and clicking buffs off with a controller is really cumbersome.

[GavynG]

Back when I would tank, I always manually cancelled any regen on me before a pull to save me the headache.

If they always do it right before you pull/flash/whatever, definitely tell them what not to do. You don't have to just put up with it. Tank queue's are fast anyway so it's not much of a hit to just leave if they don't cooperate.

I never tanked dungeons that were more trouble than they were worth.

[347SPECTRE]

Yeah, Pregening healers can be a real annoyance for pulls, it's doable, but it's honestly a completely unnecessary thing for healers to do. I've got plenty of HP at the beginning of a pull, there's no need to start throwing regen at me before I've even started pulling.

[SturmChurro]

Yeah, Pregening healers can be a real annoyance for pulls, it's doable, but it's honestly a completely unnecessary thing for healers to do. I've got plenty of HP at the beginning of a pull, there's no need to start throwing regen at me before I've even started pulling.

I'll put a hot sometimes after pull so I can cast some DoTs on the mob. Though, I've found it more useful to just precast aero 3, then just start healing. I'll usually wait a couple seconds before putting a HoT on anymore, sometimes the tank decides to do giant pulls like I said before.

[Avatre]

Not all of us use a mouse to play. Controller player here, and clicking buffs off with a controller is really cumbersome.

For the most part, until you get used to it, I agree. If PS4 controller, the middle pad can be clicked until the selector is on your buff/debuff bar, then just D-pad over until on it, and hit X. Not sure about other types of controller if you're doing using a controller while on PC.

[Catwho]

[QUOTE=LalaRu;4373867]They are returning back!
The healers that haven't nothing other to do than put a regen on you the instant before you are taking aggro from a group of mobs./QUOTE]

The game never actually tells healers not to do this.

I realized that during a Dusk Vigil run a few weeks ago. At no point in ANY of the healer storylines, the guildhests, or anything does an NPC say "Don't cast a regen before your tank pulls." It's not in the help text either.

So the reason that healers do it is because nobody ever tells them not to do it!

(Thankfully my healer in DV was very accepting and stopped once I explained why it was bad.)

[Snow_Princess]

They are returning back!
The healers that haven't nothing other to do than put a regen on you the instant before you are taking aggro from a group of mobs.

The game never actually tells healers not to do this.

I realized that during a Dusk Vigil run a few weeks ago. At no point in ANY of the healer storylines, the guildhests, or anything does an NPC say "Don't cast a regen before your tank pulls." It's not in the help text either.

So the reason that healers do it is because nobody ever tells them not to do it!

(Thankfully my healer in DV was very accepting and stopped once I explained why it was bad.)

There is a ton of things the game does not tell you. Regen only generates a crap ton of hate when it tics, if someone is coming from FFXI, you can spam regen and nothing happens. Also in FFXI, you got hate based on the amount you healed someone for, unless it was the special case of cure V, here you get hate with the amount the spell heals for, meaning you get hate with overhealing, something the game does not tell you.