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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80

    Again the regen thing! Wasn't it gone and done?

    They are returning back!
    The healers that haven't nothing other to do than put a regen on you the instant before you are taking aggro from a group of mobs.

    Dudes, I don't want play an aggro war with you, why are you testing me at every pull? Why I have to watch out even for my healer other than the bad guys?

    What worsen the situation, the couple mobs that maybe have to retake aggro are running away the pack because healer running around the map as an headless chicken, instead of taking mobs to me. I'd start to think he wanted a scene of merry-go-round to screenshot...
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    It was never gone to be honest.
    As long as we will getting new players or unexperienced players who choose to be healer, so long we will see the regen just before the pull.
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    So if the healer does this, why don't you tell them what they're doing wrong so they won't continue to do it? You can't improve if no one ever tells you you need to. Complaining about it on the forum is certainly not going to fix anything.
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    Khaidal Gesin
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    Sargatanas
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    I've seen it more and more as well. When called out, the healer usually tells the tank to git gud, or "no other tank has complained."
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukha View Post
    So if the healer does this, why don't you tell them what they're doing wrong so they won't continue to do it? You can't improve if no one ever tells you you need to. Complaining about it on the forum is certainly not going to fix anything.
    If only they would actually listen though. No matter how politely I've phrased it, over and over again people will either ignore me or give me some variation of "do your job I'll do mine / you don't pay my sub kthx". I'm sad I finished leveling all my healers so now I have to trust other people in DF...
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    As a tank main from beta phase all the way to 3.2, I have to agree that tanks should get good. Even in the old days when emnity still needed watching out, I had no trouble pulling with regen as long as the healer wasn't rushing ahead of me. Now with buffs to tank enmity, there's even less trouble.

    Learn to pull. Seriously.
    (14)
    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Nonni Brilante
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Playing a tank, I've learned to instinctively click it off just to see if they're paying attention. If they whine about it, then I tell them to wait until after I have mobs pinned to me.
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    Mi An
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Learn to pull. Seriously.

    The situations where mobs spawn from different points you cannot take aggro to all of them at same time even if you're the best tank of the game. If healer is decent and knows he have aggro, he will come to me and I can flash before even a single mob touch him. But no, the healer see he got aggro and run away instantly, and NO, I will not run to the other side of the map. I must learn to pull, and healer must learn how deal with aggro.

    Unless your "learn to pull" means "learn to check if healer put a regen and take it off before pull", that is a lesson I learned but healers got good at timing it so I cannot help.

    Then, about telling them nicely, the only answer is like yours, "i regen when i want and you need git gud with pulls". Helpless.
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  9. #9
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Learn to pull. Seriously.
    Paying attention to the monsters goes for every role.

    Notice the name color on enemies, for example - If the monster has still the orange text on him, it simply has aggro'd because the player was with its range and will bounce to the next player who performs damage on it, heals or otherwise uses a group utility buff. Once the text is red and on not on the DPS or healers, you can go wild with whatever you need to do.
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    Aletin Ves'ser
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    If healer is decent and knows he have aggro, he will come to me and I can flash before even a single mob touch him. But no, the healer see he got aggro and run away instantly.
    And youre right in this manner, and if they run away and die, it is their fault, but it's even a legitimate strategy to allow the healer to grab adds with healer aggro (as long as they wont instantly kill them) and then the tank takes it off them, nobody has to move around the arena or anything.

    But, when you are pulling trash, and the healer regens so they dont have to stop and cast to keep you alive from damage you are taking, its your responsibility to make sure you dont lose them. All it takes is one hit from flash/overpower/unleash or shield lob/tomahawk/unmend and they won't run after the healer.
    Get good at pulling and don't blame the healer for you being unable to hit all the mobs.
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