Dear Healers who don't DPS

[Miste]

Oh ?
So there's 34 pages of people calling everyone lazy and incompetent and you're fine with it, but when when I ironically do it, it's not fine anymore ? I don't remember seeing such vivid reaction for the post I quote while it was actually aggressive.

I don't care about the other 34 pages nor did I read all of it. I happen to read your last post though and the only point I was making is that you started swearing and calling people stupid. If you notice the post you quoted from Moro did neither of those things. I never said her post was perfectly nice, but there is a difference between that and swearing at people and calling them stupid etc.

Also Ghishlain didn't do anything to deserve that bad joke :/
You made fun of them for not spelling Charybdis correctly; you claim it was a joke, but sorry it wasn't funny and after your tirade of swearing and calling people stupid all it did was look really rude just like the rest of your post.

I'm doing arround 2k DPS with my SCH, what are you talking about ?

I never said you don't DPS on healer. I was only talking about the statement you made being hypocritical. Not talking about you or how you play at all.

Also, what you're saying makes no sense. First because it's exactly what a lot of player tend to do, and that's why there's now healer bonus on some random dungeon queue. Second because playing as you want and forcing to play as you want are something completly different. All this thread isn't about "how can I ask a healer I don't know to DPS more in dungeon" it's all about "how healer that don't do DPS is bad, and lazy, and incompetent and I should be able to kick them from my parties without risking being accused of vote kick abuse". But you're abusing vote kick abuse, and you're making sophistic speeches about how people should do what you want them to do.

It does make sense, you just don't understand what I am saying I guess.

The argument I pointed out that you tried to use is hypocritical. That's pretty much the extent of it. It isn't about forcing anyone to do anything it is simply that you might get in a group that is unwilling to accept your preferred playstyle. So you've misunderstood.

You cannot have expectations in DF which works on both sides of this argument. People cannot expect the healer they get will always do DPS, BUT people also cannot expect to go into a DF on healer and always get people that are OKAY with a healer not DPSing at all.

This is what I meant about the argument you were using being hypocritical. Both sides cannot have expectations, that includes everyone. If you have expectations that you absolutely cannot compromise on and you do not wish to ever be vote kicked out of a group for not compromising then you have to use PF/FC/Friends no matter which side of the argument you happen to be on.

in DF majority rules and if the majority is okay to vote kick someone out for "different playstyles" then that is already been told by SE that it is a valid reason to kick and is therefore not vote kick abuse.

For example if my preferred tanking playstyle was to pull everything I can pull all the time even if the healer is really stressing and struggling and it isn't fun for them...and the rest of the group was in agreement with the healer that I need to slow down but I refuse then they can kick me with majority vote.

I cannot get mad over this vote kick because I refused to compromise when the rest of the group didn't want me to play a certain way and if I 100% NEED to play the way I want or I will be not happy or get mad if I get vote kicked then I need to get friends or PF to get people who want me to tank that way.

Honestly in this game if you go in to DF willing to put effort into compromising and effort into playing the game to best of your ability to help your team then you notice you won't really get vote kicked much, if at all.