Do people see lalafells as children?

[Kazrah]

But like, could a lalafell work as an actual serious half of a love story? If the XIV community isn't in accord about them being adults (or at least resembling them), an audience member outside the community could very well be horrified by it (even if it was a male lalafell, because double-standards are a thing, after all).

Might be more palatable if it was written similar to how this movie played out.

As for actual Lalafell love stories, they do exist, but the Lalafell in each relationship is usually female. The Heavensward CUL questline immediately springs to mind, and even Nanamo and Raubahn could be seen in that regard to some degree as well. The ARR WVR questline would be an example of an all-Lalafell love story as well.

[RichardButte]

Might be more palatable if it was written similar to how this movie played out.

I could argue it both ways.

It would make more sense to those unfamiliar with XIV, but it would make a lot LESS sense to those who know the universe well, since these races have been living around each other for literally ages and there aren't any usually reservations about marrying whoever you want, it seems.

Momodi already had a explicit history or being promiscuous. In the postmoogle quests you had dealt with a Hyur who was propositioning her.

Yeah, it's established in game that lalafells are adults, but I was wondering what the external perception might be.

I think I'd need to spend a lot of time establishing that lalafells are absolutely adults, dealing with adult problems like money, existential bullshit, alcohol addictions, etc. before moving onto lalafells having relationships with tallfolk.

[basketofseals]

Yeah, it's established in game that lalafells are adults, but I was wondering what the external perception might be.

I think I'd need to spend a lot of time establishing that lalafells are absolutely adults, dealing with adult problems like money, existential bullshit, alcohol addictions, etc. before moving onto lalafells having relationships with tallfolk.

I mean I think staging a coup and being bisected for it is a pretty non-child thing to do.

The BLM 30-50 was driven by Ququruka and his guilt over not being able to save/avenge his friends, and the THM 1-30 had Cocobusi dealing with how his morals stacked up when it was his own family on the line.

We also have Pipin who is a very prominent army general, and Nanamo as the Sultanate.

There's plenty of proof already with Lalafel being adults. In fact there's nothing to suggest otherwise. We even had two Lalafel chucking two Hyur through the air out the miner's guild in 1.0. If there are people that aren't convinced that they're adults then they're just never going to be convinced. They've made up their minds and won't let the game tell them anything.

[Kacho_Nacho]

I mean I think staging a coup and being bisected for it is a pretty non-child thing to do.

The BLM 30-50 was driven by Ququruka and his guilt over not being able to save/avenge his friends, and the THM 1-30 had Cocobusi dealing with how his morals stacked up when it was his own family on the line.

We also have Pipin who is a very prominent army general, and Nanamo as the Sultanate.

There's plenty of proof already with Lalafel being adults. In fact there's nothing to suggest otherwise. We even had two Lalafel chucking two Hyur through the air out the miner's guild in 1.0. If there are people that aren't convinced that they're adults then they're just never going to be convinced. They've made up their minds and won't let the game tell them anything.

In addition, two lalafell figure prominently in the Pugilist 1-30 questline. All in all, I agree some people have made up their mind that lalafell are creepy children.

However, there are lots of players who like the lalafellin race. For example, I see them as heroes, companions, friends, and antagonists. They are my muses.

[Kazrah]

I could argue it both ways.

It would make more sense to those unfamiliar with XIV, but it would make a lot LESS sense to those who know the universe well, since these races have been living around each other for literally ages and there aren't any usually reservations about marrying whoever you want, it seems.

Yeah, this is something that caught me by surprise when I first started playing the game and seeing that race is such a non-issue in the story to the point where you could nearly switch races of characters and still pretty much wind up with the story completely unchanged.

As for why I used Roxanne as an example, yes, it is primarily for people that don't know much of Eorzea. However, using the main character of C.D., the obstacle wasn't the big nose so much as the doubt created by it. With a Lalafell, the case could be roughly the same; while there is no social stigma against marrying someone of a taller race, there may be a similar obstacle of doubt created in the mind of the Lalafell by what makes them different from their love interest.

[RichardButte]

there may be a similar obstacle of doubt created in the mind of the Lalafell by what makes them different from their love interest.

Now that you mention it, the movie "Freaks" actually covers almost exactly how this might play out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks

Basically, it's a lalafell-sized man who's in a relationship with a lalafell-sized woman, but inherits a large amount of money and leaves her for a "normal" woman (who plots to kill him for the money, but that's not how I envisioned this going down).

I mean, the movie is called "Freaks" partially because it's set on Earth where being a little person isn't the norm, whereas lalafells are just another common race of Eorzea so there's not as much precedent.

Still, there was that one quest in Camp Bronze Lake where there was a gay couple (highlander man and a man'qote) who were shunned by the highlander's family because he was in a relationship with a cat person (not for being gay), but that's one of the few instances I can recall of any evidence of actual racism in XIV.

If it were more common, it would make a good deal more sense for a lalafell to doubt if a tallfolk female is right for him, but pretty much every lecherous lalafell you encounter in the game is interested only in non-lalafell women.

[Kazrah]

Still, there was that one quest in Camp Bronze Lake where there was a gay couple (highlander man and a man'qote) who were shunned by the highlander's family because he was in a relationship with a cat person (not for being gay), but that's one of the few instances I can recall of any evidence of actual racism in XIV.

That case could also be that even SE hates man'qotes.....or maybe there's some story excuse about how a man'qote wouldn't be as much of a social benefit outside of a tribe.

Lalafell wouldn't normally have such a dilemma either way because despite some evil ones, they are still generally loved and appreciated by other races. Plus Lalafell are either filthy rich or in a state in which money is a non-issue, both of which would make them more desirable in society.

[BunnyChain]

People will find anything weird regardless. If you want to make it, just do it. You shouldn't be concerned about that unless you are trying to sell it to a client, imo. From what I've learned people can't see past appearances; a miqo'te wearing little - wench, a lalafell anything - child. Yes, I'm making use of common tropes here. Lorewise they are not, PCs are a case to case issue. Certain faces, hairstyles, choice of clothing and dye and behaviour can make one appear younger, regardless of race. I'd argue that a good portion of female miqo'te, au ra and midlanders look underage.