SCH adlo and succor

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It's no different if you were to spam Cure II on WHM.

WHM can spam Cure II for days, what are you on about? Unless you need to frequently cast Cure IIIs there's little reason to ever eschew the use of Cure II. It's a far cry from the situation SCH is in right now.

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WHM can spam Cure II for days, what are you on about? Unless you need to frequently cast Cure IIIs there's little reason to ever eschew the use of Cure II. It's a far cry from the situation SCH is in right now.

Level 70 Cure 1 600MP, Cure 2 1200MP vs Cure3 2280. There is little reason to spam a Tier 2 heal, when regen is the best course for MP efficiency unless there is that much of a heal issue. But that was why the media tour build White Mage was terrible to proc lilies, it was encouraging a completely inefficient method for procs.

Scholar doesn't spam an Adlo, ever. I'm sorry, but there are people out there actually playing SCH like a WHM with illogical manual heal choices or know how to use the kit when in a pickle. So they don't keep Aetherflow on cooldown, use Lucid, or use free Eos cooldowns enough, and want to complain they are out of MP? When they really should question why aren't they using half of their kit properly. I've seen it out there, and it's pretty sickening. That's not a job issue this time though, it's just more punishing if you don't play your Aetherflow choices correctly. The revised trait is really good, just you won't see it's light of day if you just sit on that Aetherflow forever.

[Vyriah]

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Just no.

You can't say "but there's bad SCH out there !" just after saying something like "casting two succor per minute is fine". Because it's not. At SB realse, I would get oom from just keeping DoT up and spamming broil 2 on fate boss without using lucid dreaming. And the most costly of them all didn't exist yet.
So first thing first, you don't go oom just because of heal spamming, DPS is what cost MP as SCH. And you're the one saying that DPS matter as SCH, wich is no wrong but only something read and not something you did. Second, casting 2 succor in a minute is bad MP management and will get you oom. There's few reason to cast not only because its cost but also its innefficiency : succor shield are 3k, or 4k at max. Unless you would die for that kind of damage (wich is hard to tell in advance, in case someone else who absolutly never played healer want to argue about this) you will get much more benefit from just using indo after.

Actually, there's only three reason for any SCH ever to not use indo instead of anything else : someone is gonna die to incoming damage, indo is on CD or you don't have eather flow. In all other situation indo > everything. It pretty much works the same way for solo target heal and lustrate, except exco' can be used beforehand. Fairy Union is nothing more than buffed fairy tick that lock fairy skills (wich are better), it can be used as pseudo single target HoT but its main function is making the fairy focus on one target, not keep anything alive (because it won't keep anything alive really long). Rouse + whispering dawn is better than fairy union since fairy will keep healing through it and both will be buffed. Again, you may only have to use it if everything else is on cooldown, something that doesn't happen a lot, knowing its effect is meager.

It may require a pretty strong stuff, but you can heal through dungeon with basically exco (and addlo if the tank is spacing out) on pull, then spaced lustrate between miasma 2 cast. Whispering dawn in advance for moment where eatherflow will be on CD. And that's it folks, everything else serves no purpose. Most boss barely ask any heal but when it does, then it's the same with indo instead of lustrate.
I sometime read that the new SCH is harder to play, but its faceroll is just less intuitive to get.

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Level 70 Cure 1 600MP, Cure 2 1200MP vs Cure3 2280. There is little reason to spam a Tier 2 heal, when regen is the best course for MP efficiency unless there is that much of a heal issue. But that was why the media tour build White Mage was terrible to proc lilies, it was encouraging a completely inefficient method for procs.

Cure is more MP efficient but not more GCD efficient. When I pre-cast on a tank to bring their HP up after a tank buster, I sure don't use dinky old Cure. The term "MP efficiency" isn't even in the WHM vocabulary. Obviously, HOTs are awesome. But sometimes you do have to direct heal (e.g., when tank is getting hit by a dozen mobs at once) and I really don't see how anyone can peg WHM as anything other than a major outlier in this regard. You can say 'L2P' until you're blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is that WHM doesn't really need to L2P, and pointing to this disparity is a valid criticism.