Tanks and super pulls

[Okamimaru]

Pull as big as you want... but if you have one melee and one caster it's not going to be very efficient... aoe damage drop off just sucks up tp/mp with little to show for it... I can't replenish mp and a caster can't toss me a goad... which means in a huge pull I'm going to have to switch to single target at some point just to keep attacking making a huge pull moot... you want huge pulls check your party comp, their gear levels and then consider how the dungeon flows... otherwise you're not really saving any time... and if time isn't your friend then don't queue for a dungeon

[bswpayton]

Pull as big as you want... but if you have one melee and one caster it's not going to be very efficient... aoe damage drop off just sucks up tp/mp with little to show for it... I can't replenish mp and a caster can't toss me a goad... which means in a huge pull I'm going to have to switch to single target at some point just to keep attacking making a huge pull moot... you want huge pulls check your party comp, their gear levels and then consider how the dungeon flows... otherwise you're not really saving any time... and if time isn't your friend then don't queue for a dungeon

Not really ive seen a ninja and a dragoon party do better than a caster and ranged one of the biggest isseus is that tanks dont use their aoe on a pull if you have tank and both dps using aoe any pull is possible

[Maku]

Not really ive seen a ninja and a dragoon party do better than a caster and ranged one of the biggest isseus is that tanks dont use their aoe on a pull if you have tank and both dps using aoe any pull is possible

I'm sure there is math for this but at least Bane and Fire2 have fall of damage the more targets they hit. Melee DPS doesn't to my knowledge at least NIN and BRD don't. I'm sure there is a certain number of mobs that would mean that the physical damage dealers out shine the magical.

[bswpayton]

I'm sure there is math for this but at least Bane and Fire2 have fall of damage the more targets they hit. Melee DPS doesn't to my knowledge at least NIN and BRD don't. I'm sure there is a certain number of mobs that would mean that the physical damage dealers out shine the magical.

But still wat do you see most of the time tanks go in pull 12 adds and half the time focus in on one add once they have full hate on the whole group. Thus leaving all the work to two people , this is the biggest issue with big pulls. This is how a big pull should go if your a palidan lets say dungeon takes 20 mins with big pulls you pick to pulls where you use hg, then you grab the adds with flash use scron and then pop fight or flight, and spam total eclispe all day long.

Instead I dont see any palidans hardly even using total ecilspe. Drks are the worse to a drk should be placing salted earth down every pull pop blood price go to town with Abyssal Drain, pop Quietus for more mp and even more Abyssal Drain, instead you get drks using dark arts soul eather on one add which mades zero sense at all. Then warriors are a bit diff but still the same they go to town with overpower, and have and use steel cyc when needed. This is the real isssue with big pulls tanks not using thier aoes at all, I can see focusing in on one add that has alot of health but u still should be using ur aoe I just dont understand why tanks refuse to.