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  1. #11
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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    No, I've noticed it even when nuking stuff solo. But I've had them occur in all sorts of parties too and I'm sure they didn't all have bards
    You must have had food on with direct hit then because with base direct hit (364) there is a 0% chance to direct hit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draxxion View Post
    As a dps I can still take piety and tenacity with both having effects. It will just be extremely ineffecient to do so, but the stats still have an effect your character because they are not spec locked in any way. They just don't have effects that are necessarily useful for the job you are playing.
    If you look in the stats screen and mouse over tenacity or piety it specifically says only applicable when role is tank/healer and they are under a special role category, direct hit is not.
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    Jeykama's Avatar
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    Meru Maru
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ariyn View Post
    Tenacity is still the best stat for your buck imo. At least up to a certain point. I run 1900 tenacity and 840 DH. Take less dmg than most and still put out 2.5-3k depending on how much I need to be in shield oath. Don't really care if I parse top 10 for tanks. I care that the bosses die. That's what matters
    The issue is that not every tank thinks like you. Every tank that was willing to run with full STR jewelry (some still do I suppose) in the past will attempt to stack DH simply because it works and is so effective, while minimizing tenacity as an inferior dps option.

    Doesn't bother me since I don't pug with tanks in content that needs vit jewelry, but when something can be abused someone will do it. Personally I was surprised when 4.0 dropped that only Piety/Tenacity were locked, when they called Direct Hit a DPS-only stat during the pre-SB live letters.
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    Ferox Maximillian
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    No one is trying to avoid getting healed.
    Really now...
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  4. #14
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by F_Maximillian View Post
    Really now...
    Haha...I admit I really laughed at this
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    Princess Sakura
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    Summoner Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    No one is trying to avoid getting healed.
    Play pvp frontline as a healer, and you will see how untrue that is
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    Valinis's Avatar
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    Miuna Shiodome
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Let's take all DD melds away from tanks while we are at it. No crit, no Det, no DH, no STR. We want tanks to be as un-fun to play as possible right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Because direct hit heals make no sense. No one is trying to avoid getting healed.

    Random person says he is. He says he jumps away from heals all the time with the face. I say sue him and take his lunch money
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  8. #18
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    The best heal dodgers were in ffxi. Ninjas with gear swap macros on everything. Your tank wasn't visible on screen 90% of the time ;P
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    Junpei Iorii
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Because direct hit heals make no sense. No one is trying to avoid getting healed.
    -Looks at O4, fill caster party spread out across the map-
    She's right. Folks can do it themselves lol.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by ValentineSnow View Post
    When direct hit was announced it was said to be a dps only stat, the same way tenacity is tank only and piety is healer only.

    But while having no direct hit on gear gives you a 0% direct hit rate, if tanks and healers do have direct hit on their gear, such as old gear or through melds, it does have an effect on them.
    This is incorrect. Even with no direct hit melds, you still have your base 364 Direct Hit, so there's still a chance a healer's or tank's attacks will land a direct hit crit, albeit it's extremely small.
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