RDM's Vercure should be removed or heavily nerfed

[Dualgunner]

So you'll solo to floor 200 of PotD then? Also no comment on the actual numerical results looking at how performance on the lowest percentile of each fight is? Popularity =/= ease of use, and while ease of use can be a factor it's not the sole one.

you are mixing stuff up here - high dps and the best utility for solo content without any backdrops is norm if you are running around as Rdm. never said the potd achievement would be norm.

You can't shift the goalposts here. Your problem from the first post was you emphasizing the fact that RDM is one of the jobs that currently can solo PotD to 200.

it's not cause rdm is soooooo cool... its cause of the cls design and the effort for effect point. cmn you know what its all about.

It's not at all because of class effort for effect. Red Mage is middle tier dps at best. They're taken as a security blanket, their raise is why they're taken; nothing to do with "it's simple".

edit: not that i mind but the last 4 topics with fflogs-links were deleted completely if you wanna argue a bit more with me you should post less of them ^^

I don't know what the last four fflogs-linked topics were but every one I've seen them in has been fine.

Besides, it's useless to even argue if we can't bring solid numbers into this. Otherwise we're just talking conjecture and getting nowhere at all.

[Neela]

we're just talking conjecture and getting nowhere at all.

honestly i lost interest in this chat since i read your arguments for Rdms "punishing" & "complexity" - you can't be serious bout them. the whole discussion is getting nowhere since the beginning cause you put more effort in bashing me and remix statements which I've never said the way you are referring them - instead of seeing through what Im trying to say, so yeah let's quit here ^^