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  1. #11
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    I just had 2 matches with the same level 30 healer healing my team and cost us the game twice along with other level 30s, jesus did my ranking take a hard hit. What the fk Yoshida. I would put my thoughts on here also but you guys have literally said everything I would have typed. Should have never tried to do PvP during the weekend, all the derps come out and ruin it for people trying to rank up seriously.

    Update: If I can smack the devs with a moogle, I would in a heart beat with no regrets.
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    Last edited by Aleisterz; 08-13-2017 at 12:17 PM.

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    Guinevere Jin
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    Plz let me level my alts lol
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  3. #13
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    Dmal Artanos
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    Please SE put a level requirement back on ranked. I am sick of losing matches due to having teammates dealing less damage on their DDs than me on a god damn Paladin in a full 8 minute match cause they're finding the need of levelling classes through ranked ....
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  4. #14
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    It is probably not alright to ask for. SE had a company advise them on how to make their pvp more esports friendly (laugh if you want, they do care), and among the recommendations was not gating pvp with so much pve content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    It is probably not alright to ask for. SE had a company advise them on how to make their pvp more esports friendly (laugh if you want, they do care), and among the recommendations was not gating pvp with so much pve content.
    In every game I've played there was some sort of restriction on RANKED games. It's not smart to allow complete new players to play a competitive game mode... Hell even overwatch the easiest of games to pick up and learn has a requirement for RANKED games. I will never see FFXIV PVP as an esport simply due to the fact "It's a shit show" some games you get a decent match up and it's actually fun, some games you get a healer who's played 4 PVP matches total thinking they're ready for ranked play
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigokunoreizasan View Post
    In every game I've played there was some sort of restriction on RANKED games. It's not smart to allow complete new players to play a competitive game mode... Hell even overwatch the easiest of games to pick up and learn has a requirement for RANKED games. I will never see FFXIV PVP as an esport simply due to the fact "It's a shit show" some games you get a decent match up and it's actually fun, some games you get a healer who's played 4 PVP matches total thinking they're ready for ranked play
    And in all of those games, even overwatch as you mention, people want those requirements to be higher. They just want to keep piling them on... as though it will somehow help filter out "bads".

    Really though... if you want to play with better players, rank up. But people will always be unhappy with losing teams in pvp. So it goes.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    And in all of those games, even overwatch as you mention, people want those requirements to be higher. They just want to keep piling them on... as though it will somehow help filter out "bads".

    Really though... if you want to play with better players, rank up. But people will always be unhappy with losing teams in pvp. So it goes.
    This season is so bad it's really hard to "carry" unless you heal, being forced into a role just to get out of "elo hell" is absurd. I've never seen anyone cry to improve rank requirements in overwatch... If you're a decent player you skip over all of the "bads" and actually play with players around your skill, you're not forced to move up from Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Diamond just to get where you belong
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    Last edited by Jigokunoreizasan; 08-14-2017 at 02:10 PM.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    And in all of those games, even overwatch as you mention, people want those requirements to be higher. They just want to keep piling them on... as though it will somehow help filter out "bads".

    Really though... if you want to play with better players, rank up. But people will always be unhappy with losing teams in pvp. So it goes.
    except there's literally 0 requirement to get into ranked here other than "hurr durr get lvl 30" Any average joe can get to lvl 30 in a few hours and enter ranked pvp without knowing what to do at all. When these players get into a ranked game and then deal less dmg than a tank does, then that is a huge issue since those aren't just dragging themselves down, but everyone else in the team with them.
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    Last edited by Dmal; 08-14-2017 at 02:15 PM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jigokunoreizasan View Post
    I've never seen anyone cry to improve rank requirements in overwatch...
    Then you don't frequent their forums. They make the exact same arguments you, Dmal, and others are making "Hurr durr level 25 is too easy", "Can't carry these bads," etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Then you don't frequent their forums. They make the exact same arguments you, Dmal, and others are making "Hurr durr level 25 is too easy", "Can't carry these bads," etc etc.
    You are completely ignoring the point that people with absolutely zero game knowledge can enter ranked pvp at any time once they hit lvl 30. which at the current state of the game a newbie can reach after about 5-10 hours of playing the game tops. everyone is cool if they do that in a casual mode where the whole reward is exp. But these players have access to a competetive mode where we actually play for prizes. You can't just tell people "get good if you want to play with good palyers" when literally people who would reach top 100 in each season are forced to play with those people and DEPEND ON THEM PLAYING WELL to even get back to their ranks.
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