Frontline Bots

[Paladinleeds]

but online drivers as Synapse can let me create on the fly an offline driver for tournament usage (aka no macros) to use when I move to tournament locations.

But, will Synapse let you use the touch screen apps of the DeathStalker Ultimate in the offline mode (example, I use the numpad app on the touch screen to shift out certain things)? If not, then it's still kind of a no-go unfortunately. I don't have a numpad without those apps being usable. Problem is, those apps could be counted as against ToS even if I'm just using it as a numberpad.

That being said, I didn't know about the offline mode on the app. It wasn't there when I first bought my Razer gear, and they never really advertised the feature, so it came as a surprise to me. So thanks for giving me the heads up on that, I had a little play around with it.

[LalaRu]

...they never really advertised the feature, so it came as a surprise to me. So thanks for giving me the heads up on that, I had a little play around with it.

Maybe not much known because not much players are really going to "physical" tournaments with their hardware. I will take with me keyboard and mouse and that drivers.

You will found the feature in the account menu, it is called "Tournament Drivers", and the "include macros" most of the times must be off (some tournaments allows them).

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

Aether is a little better, atleast I haven't seen that many lately. People have been kicking bots right from the start.

SE need to put random frontline in df selection. Seal Rock and Borderline are getting neglected. I'm sure the bots will be confused as hell and i need victims for hands of mercy.

[Snow_Princess]

I'm perfectly fine with them removing all XP from it. I'm only there for the mounts and cosmetic gear.
And at ~20% win rate and matches dragging on as long as they do, it's getting tiresome.If getting rid of the bots keeps them off my team and lets me progress faster, great, get rid of them. But if we could just make sure they're all on the opponents' teams until I'm done with the grind, I'd be down with that as well. >_>

Queues will go back to 1-3 hours, did you know the queue wait timer has a cap? its 999 minutes, and 99 seconds. I left my computer on as I slept and woke still in it. Reason I did that is because back then all I did was craft anyway, so I did not care. I belive I did woke before it capped, I think the total queue time was about 17-18 hrs, it popped shortly after capping (about 1 hr)

Kinda shocked more bots don't show up in deep, but then again being a bot in 4 people is easier to notice I suppose.

That's what I do. I don't enjoy PvP. SE could offer me 500 octodecillion gil, a large house in every district, everything instantly levelled to 70, in max Savage gear, all crafts unlocked, and all gatherers, all set to 100% HQ rate for gathers, and crafts are guaranteed HQ, and I have the stats to craft everything, with all books unlocked, in exchange for playing 1 PvP game, and I wouldn't do it. You can't bribe me into doing something I absolutely detest. The friends that tried to drag me into PvP very almost got blacklisted in game for it.

I am wondering if people are truly honest when they say something like this. For me, I do stuff I do not want to because of some means to an end. Personal example is feast. I hate the fact there is no chat, no social interaction, hate the fact I can't ask someone change to healer and /or tank when the set ups are like 7 dps and me healer. I hate seeing "good job" spam just because they died and I can't heal someone going 1 v 7, but I do feast when it is a wt sticker, a fast means to an end. Even though frontlines is slower I would do that for a WT sticker and prefer to do so over feast despite taking longer cuz I can at least talk to people and they can talk back. I would also not be running expert/ delta normal (and I really do not need to run delta normals) if it had no means to an end unless it is out to help a friend for something they want.

[Ayerinn]

Queues will go back to 1-3 hours, did you know the queue wait timer has a cap? .

No it won't - well, unless you are Maelstrom and refuse to use the Merc feature but that is on you. Plenty of people do Frontlines for Tomestones...heck, that is the only reason I do it not worth the pain for the 33% chance to get acceptable amounts of XP.

[Snow_Princess]

No it won't - well, unless you are Maelstrom and refuse to use the Merc feature but that is on you. Plenty of people do Frontlines for Tomestones...heck, that is the only reason I do it not worth the pain for the 33% chance to get acceptable amounts of XP.

Have you tried frontlines before gero/adding exp? it will, because there is faster means for tomestones etc and they had that daily bonus back before gero/exp when it was 1-3 hours. I used to do them, or tried to, sometimes I could not do it every day.

If you take out exp gain now, it will revert to what it was like before gero. (since I am sure anyone that has an interest in that gear/mounts have them now) so the only reason to go do them is bot exp and due the daily for tomestones because the queue is fast since people bot exp. No reason to think it wouldn't revert to how it used to be if the dropped exp gain. The only reason that roulette got better queue times was gero, then we get exp on top of it.

On my data center, since gero , I rarely seen 24 man frontlines. I saw them here and there if I did a morning queue + nearing the end of HW but when they added the exp gain (sb?) it went back to 72 man 24/7

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The Garo event was not the reason queues improved. The PvP community asked for GC restrictions to be lifted for 2 long years, and they FINALLY did so with Frontline Freelancer. We said it would improve queues and it did, because no longer would it matter if say, 14 Mael, 6 Adders, and only 4 Flames were in queue. If they went freelancer, that was 24, and enough for a match. SE conveniently hid this behind an event (and finally adding new PvP gear after 2 and a half patches).

And even then PvP saw a surge in activity, even without XP being offered.

[Moonlite]

I would imagine SE would be pretty quick to ban players who are obviously botting when being reported?

Uhmm no. PvP/PvE they pay they don't get banned. We have had whole servers report people all through ARR and HW's they still play. They also have no proactive tracking software from the looks of it.

[Snow_Princess]

The Garo event was not the reason queues improved. The PvP community asked for GC restrictions to be lifted for 2 long years, and they FINALLY did so with Frontline Freelancer. We said it would improve queues and it did, because no longer would it matter if say, 14 Mael, 6 Adders, and only 4 Flames were in queue. If they wentfreelancer, that was 24, and enough for a match. SE conveniently hid this behind an event (and finally adding new PvP gear after 2 and a half patches).

And even then PvP saw a surge in activity, even without XP being offered.

I disagree with this statement, at least partially. When you sit in queue for 1-3 hours, sometimes longer, there where days I did not get to do frontline daily, and these where always 24 man. I never seen a 72 man once and honestly had no idea it existed. To go from that, to insta queue 72 man is not fixed from freelancer alone, you are underestimating how many get motivated by glams and mounts. a few months later it did start to slow down, and you got to see 24 man about 10 min or so wait in the mornings. After the exp buff, it went back to instaqueue 72 man and SO MUCH because of the people returning FOR SB on top of things lead to DF crashes from people queueing for frontline too much.

So taking away the exp bonus will have a big impact, it may not revert to 3 hrs + because of freelancer but the wait times would be specifically longer leaving the people that do pvp just for pvp, alone to themselves again. I am sure you are willing to admit, that crowd is small.

[Awful]

So taking away the exp bonus will have a big impact, it may not revert to 3 hrs + because of freelancer but the wait times would be specifically longer leaving the people that do pvp just for pvp, alone to themselves again. I am sure you are willing to admit, that crowd is small.

Yeah the crowd is quite small no ones denying that, the problem is even if you take the bots away there's more glaring issues with PvP with that being the lack of battlegrounds, que times restricted by Data Center, there's more than that just naming some. If they redesigned the map and made the game client side instead of server side the game would be much more enjoyable, but as it stands it's all server side making PvP clunky just do a knockback or Unmend in PvP compared to other MMOs in PvP, it's so awkward.

Regarding the times I disagree with them being anything more than 10-15 minutes, the only time it'd be dead is when it's early mornings/late at night which is happening right now it's not a 24/7 thing. PvP being fun or not fun is totally subjective I still find it fun and I que and play when I have time now but lately I've been busy.