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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    I suggest you go have another look at that thread because you're very obviously remembering it wrong:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ling-in-XIV...

    Most of the people in that thread agreed on some level. You were the outlier there.

    The key flaw with THIS thread was that the title is too incendiary, which prompted many people to not even read the actual OP and instead just become defensive that I was attacking their role of choice.

    As some said earlier, there's definitely a discussion to have about healing and the way it tends to flow in this game, but I made the title too clickbaity.

    If a thread is going to get any attention at all on the general forums, it needs to have somewhat of an eye-grabbing title, but I went overboard here.



    Um, no?

    DPS rotations may not change, but the rotations are fun and engaging, and it's actually everywhere BUT Savage that healers are the most boring.

    DPS always have something to shoot for, in terms of optimizing their rotations to do more damage. Tanks can somewhat do the same, but they also always have their basic rotation to be going through.

    It's only healers that are left with no choice but to DPS if they want to have anything to do at ALL, and healer DPS is generally a snooze.
    No, the reason is the presentation, and ill tell you the exact problem why you got different reactions:
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    ..... or conserve mana in case a DPS screws up and gets hit by an AoE.
    ................ so you can go back to deciding to conserve mana or pushing a few DPS buttons.

    BTW, you have an equal chance of being yelled at for DPSing or NOT DPSing, because maybe no one gets hit and you should've been DPSing the entire time, or maybe several people will get hit (even due to lag) and you're going to go OOM because you DPSed!

    You have no way of knowing which was the right answer until after the fight. Have fun, healers!

    Angry sarcasm aside, it all boils down to how damage is dealt to players in this game and how potent healing spells are (ie one oGCD heals 50%+ of a tank's HP so we can get right back to DPSing).

    Damage either comes out in a trickle, or a deluge. Compare this to other MMOs where tanks take steady damage that healers need to constantly be healing through "maintenance rotations" that allow the healer to make interesting and engaging decisions on how they want to spend resources.
    .............. or standing there to regenerate mana. This is why I gave up my level 70 AST: once I had all of the cardplay down to muscle memory, it became clear just how bland and uninteresting healing is.
    The thread you linked, or made in the healer section was basically "This means that, as a healer, I either have no healing to do or TONS of healing to do, and the end result is that, yes, healers get pestered about doing DPS, which I don't mind doing, except that healer DPS is boring AF."

    This IS TRUE, what is NOT TRUE is what you said for this thread. You do not have mp problems in this game, unless very extreme cases with tanks not using CDs + a lot of dodge fail + raises. So when you say you have mp problems on AST people question if you know how play healer at all. The way people see this thread is basically showing how you can't handle healing and get good. Also you point out or try claim in this thread that no one can predict the spike damage, something that is also not true. If you play healer enough you learn if people will take axess damage and if you need to heal more (a skill more needed more with clearic stance because of this issue: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ight-rotations ... ) ironically another thread you made that is perfectly agreeable.

    But ya the reason of the different reaction is the different presentation, you sound like you have no idea what your talking about to this one. To people that are career healers, all "issues" presented here in this thread are non-existent to career healers due to improved foresight over those with less experience.

    Case and point, recently I did a mega pull in the first SB DF, level 61, starting to level my pld in SB content. I did the typical megapull with caster LB. However things where dying really slowly and tbh I am shocked we did not wipe, me and healer had to do some extra work but there was no MP issues... (The BLM was new plus vastly undergeared) You rarely ever have mp issues in this game, the only way to have mp issues is to VASTLY overheal like spamming cure III/medcia II without anything to heal, over spaning holy (I think this is the only way to DPS and go OOM) , over casting Adloquium/ succor, and I got no clue how to make AST go oom unless its from mass raises or not paying attention where you never lucid. and ofc mass raises.. 3600 for a raise wth is with that anyway? =.=

    It is rare to see a healer get "pestered" for doing dps or not dps, yes both can happen but they are rare. I think being pestered for healing dps is more trolling then anything.
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