Quote Originally Posted by Gwaeron89 View Post
There's no really any reason to use b4 outside of opener or when foul is on cd during umbral phase but mana is not ticking fast enough to just cast single t3 and switch.
Do you mean that its a gain to not cast Bliz 4 and wait for a slow manatick in the event that you have no foul or thunder cloud proc? additonally.. There are alot of occasions when you may have foul but you dont have thunder cloud. If you use Foul first then thunder 3. you run the risk of entering astral with slightly too little mana to cast the final F4