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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    Much like we have Rowena, the Ehcatl, Custom Deliveries and Next Mission Allowances could SE please impliment a market board option that allows the player to request an item, its quality and how many they need?
    Either that, or make it that I can buy 5 items from someone's stack of 9 on the market board instead of buying the entire stack when I only need 5, not 9...
    Just buy 9.. use 5.. and resell the 4 on market board.. don't reinvent the wheel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    when you want to make a difficult crafting item and the mats are really expencive so you don't want to be spending more than you really need to be.
    huh? you looking for charity donation? otherwise just buy the mats & use the search function to find some crafter that can do it. don't you have any crafter friends O_O?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    Just buy 9.. use 5.. and resell the 4 on market board.. don't reinvent the wheel.
    That doesn't work so well when the only "sanely" priced units come in stacks of 50+ and you literally don't have enough to buy them (or have enough, but will be frozen with no remaining cash until someone buys your relisted ingredients).

    I'm very much in favour of buying/selling partial stacks, but I kind of fear adding buy orders would just end up resulting in one large FIFO supply-chain with aggregate goods like GW2's market board. :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    That doesn't work so well when the only "sanely" priced units come in stacks of 50+ and you literally don't have enough to buy them (or have enough, but will be frozen with no remaining cash until someone buys your relisted ingredients).
    you talking about this?

    this is why I ask my DoL friend to gather them....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    I'm very much in favour of buying/selling partial stacks,
    Not going to happen.. SE needs to rent retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    Just buy 9.. use 5.. and resell the 4 on market board.. don't reinvent the wheel.

    huh? you looking for charity donation? otherwise just buy the mats & use the search function to find some crafter that can do it. don't you have any crafter friends O_O?
    Why so aggressive, it's just a suggestion. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    Why so aggressive, it's just a suggestion. xD
    it was a real question because you said "the mats are expensive"... usually the mats are cheap but crafter charges a lot on the finished product on Market board. so I was asking if you just want a request board for donation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    it was a real question because you said "the mats are expensive"... usually the mats are cheap but crafter charges a lot on the finished product on Market board. so I was asking if you just want a request board for donation.
    No, you silly. You would put up an item, request a quanitity and a quality. Then you'd say how much you'd pay, then if someone has said mats you need they can sell you them. You'd base how much you're offering for the mats on what said mats are going for at the time. There's no 'free' in this, lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokier View Post
    No, you silly. You would put up an item, request a quanitity and a quality. Then you'd say how much you'd pay, then if someone has said mats you need they can sell you them. You'd base how much you're offering for the mats on what said mats are going for at the time. There's no 'free' in this, lmao.
    I can see this thing you suggested being flooded with people wanting everything for 1 gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    I can see this thing you suggested being flooded with people wanting everything for 1 gil.
    That is a valid concern and one I can understand. Perhaps then, to draw inspiration from RuneScape's Grand Exchange, a maximum price percentage barrier could be put in place for crafter requests. So let's say the average sell price of an orchestrion is 600k. Let's put the buffer at 10%, you can't offer a payment below 540k. Arbitrary numbers, and would need some tinkering, but it's an idea to toss over.

    EDIT: To clarify, it would be based off the selling history (as for items with no sell history at the time, I'm not sure. Perhaps make it so you can't request a crafter make it via the MB until it has sold at least once on the MB?)

    EDIT2: Couple more things to add. Perhaps this could be expanded to include like a "shopping list" of items you need, that a crafter can accept the contract for (for example, levequest items from 15-50 on a crafting class). But the contract won't be considered accepted until the items have been provided. There could be extra gil fees involved for the one putting out the contract (thus creating a gil sink too). And, the items made could have a specific identifier added to them that means they CANNOT be resold on the marketboard, should this be a worry of people using this as a means to flip items through convenience.

    EDIT3: Something I noticed that I forgot to address before...
    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    it was a real question because you said "the mats are expensive"... usually the mats are cheap but crafter charges a lot on the finished product on Market board. so I was asking if you just want a request board for donation.
    Believe it or not, I see some products going for LESS than the cost of the mats themselves. Ehcatl Sealant going for around 150k each on our server. Forager's Wristguards (uses 3 sealant), going for 120k HQ. Funnily enough, I just snapped up that one (need it myself for when my gatherers hit 50)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    I can see this thing you suggested being flooded with people wanting everything for 1 gil.
    This is why I sort of see any attempt at adding a WTB option going the route of GW2's auction house. It stacks offers on specific items and keeps a minimum WTS as well as a maximum WTB. The first person to offer a given WTB price is the first person to get the item if someone sells it at that price, and the first person to offer an item for sale at the lowest WTS price has their merchandise sold first.

    I'm not immensely fond of this as it just aggregates all sales into one big machine and makes it fairly easy for people to control certain markets, but its probably the only sane way to filter requests for a WTB system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    huh? you looking for charity donation? otherwise just buy the mats & use the search function to find some crafter that can do it. don't you have any crafter friends O_O?
    I happen to know her myself. No, she's not looking for a charity donation (she even pays crafters who refuse to charge a tip for their services), and yes she does have crafter friends. I actually think the player delivery request (which is the main request) is a good idea. The stack thing could be done differently though. Perhaps you could set a price per item and offer a customisable discount for bulk buying from the stack. Either as a series of fixed thresholds or on a sliding scale. Set this up on the point of adding it to your market board listings as a seller, and job done. Plus, given the limited amount of selling spots we have, this would make it easier to help move goods.

    EDIT: Let's further the player delivery service thing. You can set a price you'd be willing to pay (useful if there's none of that item currently for sale which I see fairly regularly on Louisoix), and the crafters can decide whether or not they're willing to agree to it, then offer a fulfilment. Heck, you could even put it on the retainers, so your retainer will hold onto the item for you once a crafter has agreed to your contract and provided the goods.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 08-11-2017 at 01:37 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.