Black Mage Raise Ability

[RenAshdoll]

Another thing to think about is that if they somehow twist the BLM lore, which is specialty in destructive magic, just to give raise for the so-call utility balance, the dev team will have to fit reasons into the lore of any new mage jobs in the future to give them the same raising ability.

[Neela]

just to give raise for the so-call utility balance, the dev team will have to...

...adjust their burst dps as well – good luck with that... : /

If this is the best argument against it we should get it. This is a game first.

oh really? Rdm with 4x raises in less than 10 secs and 7k (x2) insta heals is far enough out of balancing... we don't need another op DD with "endless" resses on a cls which can't get oom...

[PrismaticDaybreak]

Rdm with 4x raises in less than 10 secs and 7k (x2) insta heals

So less than 10 seconds is factually incorrect. it's going to be at least 19 seconds with minimal levels of spell speed, more than enough time for you and the poor unfortunate souls you raised to get nailed by a mechanic and die since you're so busy raising people. And I'll go ahead and make the point that, again, most RDMs are going to avoid using Vercure like the it's the devil in a serious raiding scene.

Verraise isn't going to be touched just to make BLM feel better, and maybe consider that there's more RDM parses because maybe people enjoy RDM more, or maybe not everybody uploads their parses to fflogs, I sincerely doubt that there's more than that simply because of Verraise.

[Neela]

So less than 10 seconds is factually incorrect. it's going to be at least 19 seconds with minimal levels of spell speed

considered that you don't just have dual cast but swiftcast as well?

[Alistaire]

oh really? Rdm with 4x raises in less than 10 secs and 7k (x2) insta heals is far enough out of balancing... we don't need another op DD with "endless" resses on a cls which can't get oom...

I already said how to fix that; make it only useable in astral fire and tag a big mp cost to it. Then it'd be a chunk of a dps loss for them to do it.

[Kabooa]

I already said how to fix that; make it only useable in astral fire and tag a big mp cost to it. Then it'd be a chunk of a dps loss for them to do it.

You'd actually just make it an MP-less ability with a long ass cooldown, if we go this route. The issue with Raising and Thauamturges is that MP means nothing, and losing some portion of damage is better than wiping.

It'd also be better to differentiate this from other raises. Things can serve the same function (wipe recovery) without being exactly the same.

[Dualgunner]

oh really? Rdm with 4x raises in less than 10 secs and 7k (x2) insta heals is far enough out of balancing... we don't need another op DD with "endless" resses on a cls which can't get oom...

RDM 4x rezzes in 10 seconds is a "wipe it now and start fresh" type situation. Also the healing potency is only 350, and you act like it doesn't take two GCDs just like casting cure 1 twice would. The second is just on the front end of the GCD rather than the back like most spells.