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    Honestly when first doing the dungeons they weren't that bad. Except for TotoRak and Stone vigil...And Aurum vale even though technically that one's optional. The real problem was the absolutely ABSURD number of fluff and filler fetch quests before each main step in the story tied into the main scenario.

    Main scenario: "Hey, the kobolds are trying to summon titan."
    You: "Oh no! What are we gonna do?"
    Main Scenaio: "We're going to think of a way to get there and stop them...make yourself busy in the meantime by helping these people who have nothing to do with this."
    You: "...By doing what?"
    Main Scenario: "Their chores. Hop to it lackey!"

    If there's anything that needs a revamp it's the removal of SO MUCH FILLER.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJMau View Post
    Main scenario: "Hey, the kobolds are trying to summon titan."
    You: "Oh no! What are we gonna do?"
    Main Scenaio: "We're going to think of a way to get there and stop them...make yourself busy in the meantime by helping these people who have nothing to do with this."
    You: "...By doing what?"
    Main Scenario: "Their chores. Hop to it lackey! Gather some rare ingredients for your last dinner before Titan kill you"

    If there's anything that needs a revamp it's the removal of SO MUCH FILLER.
    fixed it a bit ^^
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    I'd be all for them revamping old content. I've seen some people say, "Nowadays, there's not much reason to go there outside of hunts", but that pretty much is true of all new maps too... I honestly spend more time in ARR zones and cities than I do in any of the new ones (outside of Yanxia for the moment, because... reasons). Flying would really help in a few spots (burning wall, anyone?) There are a few places where swimming and diving could open up a route to new dungeons and the like as well.

    Housing, Glamour, and FATEs (especially epic/30-minute FATEs) are systems that need major overhauls as well. Adjusting old hunts as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJMau View Post
    If there's anything that needs a revamp it's the removal of SO MUCH FILLER.
    Considering this happened several times in SB and they even lampshaded it by saying something to the effect of, "What better way to win the hearts of the people than to... do mundane tasks for them? Well, we've done it before and we'll certainly have to do it again!", I don't think this will ever stop being a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    Considering this happened several times in SB and they even lampshaded it by saying something to the effect of, "What better way to win the hearts of the people than to... do mundane tasks for them? Well, we've done it before and we'll certainly have to do it again!", I don't think this will ever stop being a thing.
    True, but that "winning the hearts of the people" stuff was relegated to sidequests. In 2.0 to like 2.3 that type of stuff was put smack dab in the main scenario. As in you HAVE to do it if you want to progress in the story. What exactly does gathering ingredients for a lazy chef in Costa Del Sol have to do with taking out titan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJMau View Post
    True, but that "winning the hearts of the people" stuff was relegated to sidequests. In 2.0 to like 2.3 that type of stuff was put smack dab in the main scenario. As in you HAVE to do it if you want to progress in the story. What exactly does gathering ingredients for a lazy chef in Costa Del Sol have to do with taking out titan?
    It happens in the main quest here as well.
    When you get to Ala Ghiri, Namai, etc. you have to go do quests for the individual villagers before you can move on.
    I get that it's for trying to flesh out the world, and I'm not actually opposed to these quests, but the way they're just shoved straight in like that feels hamfisted at best.

    That said, another change I'd like them to make (to old content and new) would be to ensure MSQs give enough EXP so that there are 0 gaps where you have to grind levels to continue.
    Side-quests can be saved for Alt XP.
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