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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Being mentioned by a bit part player in the man story does not equate to being in the main story, nor the leader of a nation state.
    If they have to be the leader of a nation-state to count, then Cat-girls are out of luck as well. :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medicine View Post
    As it stands Miqo'tes currenly have about 80% of the pie where as the bigger races have about... 10%? Would be really nice to make it more even.
    That's not actually the case, midlanders actually appear more often - just. But the overall appearances are broadly in line with the proportions of race and gender. That doesn't excuse the exclusion of particular combinations, but does reflect relative fairness of representation based on player population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    If they have to be the leader of a nation-state to count, then Cat-girls are out of luck as well. :-/
    Same for AU Ra. But be serious being mentioned in passing does not mean a character is in the main story, that's asinine and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Same for AU Ra. But be serious being mentioned in passing does not mean a character is in the main story, that's asinine and you know it.
    I honestly don't know why you act as though the Crystal Tower quests are less significant though.
    They're just as involved as most segments of the main story and are important to the lore/background of Eorzea.

    Swapping G'raha and... Pipin for example would not have really been an improvement to his role/prominence in my eyes. He'd be in the main story, but he be no more significant a character, so... eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    I honestly don't know why you act as though the Crystal Tower quests are less significant though.
    They're just as involved as most segments of the main story and are important to the lore/background of Eorzea.

    Swapping G'raha and... Pipin for example would not have really been an improvement to his role/prominence in my eyes. He'd be in the main story, but he be no more significant a character, so... eh.
    BS. If I attempted to argue that someone in the Sky Pirate quests mentioning a FemRoe by name equated to their inclusion in the main story, I'd be laughed out of this discussion, and rightly so. Stop being silly please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    BS. If I attempted to argue that someone in the Sky Pirate quests mentioning a FemRoe by name equated to their inclusion in the main story, I'd be laughed out of this discussion, and rightly so. Stop being silly please.
    The point of mentioning it being referenced in the main story is, it's canon. It happened. Crystal Tower is part of the story now. And not an insignificant part.
    Likewise if there were a prominent Female Roe in the Sky Pirate saga and that whole endavour ends up being brought up in some main-scenario discussion (journey back to Mhach?), I would consider it just as valid.

    If it were a class quest or a side-quest, you could say that it is merely a what-if since players can skip it and it doesn't necessarily integrate to anything else in any way, but the raid story-lines should not be shirked off.

    But moving beyond that, who would you have replaced in the main scenario then? I guess you could argue Pipin, Kemp, Fordola, or M'naago are replaceable. Other than that though, there's not much choice that would make a lot of sense.
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    Leave Pipin alone. With luck will take a more active role. It's all I have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    The point of mentioning it being referenced in the main story is, it's canon. It happened. Crystal Tower is part of the story now. And not an insignificant part.
    Likewise if there were a prominent Female Roe in the Sky Pirate saga and that whole endavour ends up being brought up in some main-scenario discussion (journey back to Mhach?), I would consider it just as valid.

    If it were a class quest or a side-quest, you could say that it is merely a what-if since players can skip it and it doesn't necessarily integrate to anything else in any way, but the raid story-lines should not be shirked off.

    But moving beyond that, who would you have replaced in the main scenario then? I guess you could argue Pipin, Kemp, Fordola, or M'naago are replaceable. Other than that though, there's not much choice that would make a lot of sense.
    Tell you what, you try telling the OP that their concerns are met because Uranger mentioned Mowenbryda and we'll see how that goes shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Tell you what, you try telling the OP that their concerns are met because Uranger mentioned Mowenbryda and we'll see how that goes shall we?
    They're reasonably met because Moenbryda was in the story in the first place.

    You can say, "I'd like even more.", sure, but you can't say "Doesn't count. Next."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour View Post
    They're reasonably met because Moenbryda was in the story in the first place.

    You can say, "I'd like even more.", sure, but you can't say "Doesn't count. Next."
    Post your answer to the OP and see if it meets their concerns then - if you are so certain. I suspect though that you and I both know that the truth is that it does nothing of the sort.
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