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  1. #181
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    hijifa's Avatar
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    Azalea Ho'ru
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Literally Yoshi P said that he doesn't want the game to feel like a job and be a total grind fest. He said that people nowadays like to play other games too, so its purposely designed so that you don't feel like you have to spend all your time in this 1 game.

    Whether that design choice is a good one is subjective, but thats what they've gone for.

    I for 1 am okay with it... mainly why there were so many people during launch is because some "famous" twitchers played the game at launch so the viewers got bumped up. ffxiv in general will never have a huge viewer base, same as any mmo...
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  2. #182
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    Eli85's Avatar
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    Eldred Draconis
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fonkyama View Post
    It's more about different things to do rather than more things to do at this point really.
    This is the one game that gives you a lot of different activities to do. They may not be all about end game, but they're there.

    Also I really don't want any more. Just new. I just fit everything I need to do in as it is. I really don't want more content that I may feel that I have to do to "keep up."

    edit: What I would love to see is more dungeons. I'm not a big fan of this 3 dungeons only in the expert roulette. Think it would be great to either i) as dungeons are added in the expansion to see them join the others in expert (so you would have to upgrade the drops in the pre-existing dungeons) or ii) put every single dungeon in the expert roulette and scale up the loot.
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    Last edited by Eli85; 08-05-2017 at 03:12 AM.

  3. #183
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    Enyalios Ares
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 51
    The OP is 100% right. This "expansion" was nothing more than a glorified patch. Same routine, same system, same cycle. Everything is the same with a new coat of paint.
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  4. #184
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    Kalocin's Avatar
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    Letho Orwyth
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I think they really need to either throw in some more open world content, boss rushes, or challenges that are unattached to the weekly gear grind that make use of the game's combat. We've got a lot of recyclable content in crafting/gathering/housing, chocobo racing, triple triad etc but none of it is related to actually making use of your gear for something.

    Gear shouldn't just be used to make clearing already cleared content faster (or making the next patch's gear cycle trivial), instead, it should be used for things that are unrelated to those methods. Such as mentioned, Soloable boss rushes, challenge modes... But then why not some new ideas? Dynasty Warriors styled arenas or something like Pokemon Tournaments (except more 1v5 randomized encounters), Monster Hunter fights (hard but short fights for crafting ingredients) etc. Lots of other games out there to look at on how to make recyclable game modes for combat that are actually for the sake of fun instead of reward.

    Imo, content meant for grinding is almost never fun as it needs to be long enough to not to instantly gear up, it needs to be accessible so everyone can gear up properly.
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  5. #185
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    Princess Sakura
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I've quit HW for 8 months because of the same tired forumla. I returned a bit before the launch of SB EA.
    After I level the jobs I want again, you won't be seeing me for a while.I usually get hyped with 24man raids, but since it's a once a week thing. I enjoy it once and done.
    So tired of the gating...
    ^
    So for the people still supporting this, how many people do you need talk to in game and see posts like this before you admit is a a problem?
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    I"d say if you got 40-80hrs of gameplay within the last 2 months, then you more than got your moneys worth. The issue here isn't a lack of content or being "bored", it's about being burned out. No matter how fun or good a game may be if you play hours on end you are going to get bored of doing the same thing and what has even Yoshi himself said in those instances? Take a step back, stop playing and come back later, come back when there is content you want to do, play the game to the point you feel satisified. This is just 1 game, there is no need for you to only have your eye on playing one game, if you aren't having fun with this one currently, play the others of hundreds of games out there with their own unique stories and gameplay experiences. You shouldn't rely on FFXIV as your one and only game that you play during your free time, just take a step back and play something else.
    I am not sure if you are fully understanding what is being referenced. To me anyway they do not mind you taking breaks and do not want people spending more time on the game then they can't handle (Ever read the stories of people literally dying from playing too much wow in one sitting?) They also do not want repeat issues of say PW of FFXI so they are trying cover themselves to a point. (Could also be an implied excuse of why they do not invest in releasing enough content) I really do not think they are referring to "it is ok to quit because we understand you are tired of our copy/paste content of 4 years.
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  6. #186
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
    The OP is 100% right. This "expansion" was nothing more than a glorified patch. Same routine, same system, same cycle. Everything is the same with a new coat of paint.
    what do you expect, are we gona stop having dungeons, are we gona stop having ex primals, do you not want anymore more raids thats the very core of the game. Yes I hope they add extra stuff but dungeons raids and primals are never going away, I just dont get what everyone is wanting this is coming from someone who plays prob ten hours a day and I have tons of stuff to do
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  7. #187
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    what do you expect, are we gona stop having dungeons, are we gona stop having ex primals, do you not want anymore more raids thats the very core of the game. Yes I hope they add extra stuff but dungeons raids and primals are never going away, I just dont get what everyone is wanting this is coming from someone who plays prob ten hours a day and I have tons of stuff to do
    I don't particularly understand either. I'm on summer vacation from work and school so I play a lot and every day I find something to do. People just get very locked in the "end game only" mindset when in reality there are quite a lot of things to do. I bet most (keyword : most) of the people complaining haven't touched Savage or PotD 101+/Solo, if they really don't want to do crafting or icky old content like relics/primal farms.
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  8. #188
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    Niraves Lunas
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Yes, by all means, lets continue with the exact same things we've had from the very start. We'll slap a new name on the NPCs, maybe change around some of the colors of the mobs, eh? Just do the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER.

    I mean, hey, its worked for four years, right? Why change it? And if people are bored, well fuck them, let them unsub and go play other games. Brilliant. Absolutely marvelous.
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  9. #189
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Niraves View Post
    Yes, by all means, lets continue with the exact same things we've had from the very start. We'll slap a new name on the NPCs, maybe change around some of the colors of the mobs, eh? Just do the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER.

    I mean, hey, its worked for four years, right? Why change it? And if people are bored, well fuck them, let them unsub and go play other games. Brilliant. Absolutely marvelous.
    Ok, next expansion will make XIV an ARPG, cuz thats all new, and no rehashing. The game will rely now instead of memorization, on strict reaction speeds, and if you are just a tiny bit off, you die. Then the forums can explode with OMG WHY DID YOU MAKE IT DIFFERENT WE LIKED IT THE WAY IT WAS posts.
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  10. #190
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    Niraves Lunas
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
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    Okay, sure. Anything would be better than releasing the exact same content with a fresh coat of paint and calling it 'new'. I'm not talking about removing primals, or raids or dungeons. Those things are staples. But why is it that you can map out EXACTLY what you're going to do for an entire expansion before the expansion has even really begun? Oh, I'll tell you why, because they do the exact same shit in the exact same order with no variation other than 'Random Primal boss # 43' uses his abilities is a slightly different order than 'Random Primal boss # 42'.

    Raids, 8 and 24 mans, and dungeons and relics, I'm not saying these are bad content. I'm just saying that we need DIFFERENT content. For the love of god, how many years does it take to get bored of doing the exact same thing in the exact same pattern?

    Cap your tomestones, do your Omega or Alex or Snarf or whatever raid, get your cranks and shafts and bolts in the same order that you did as the last expansion and get your weekly gear and hoard 1000 tomes for a weapon in 7 weeks just like last expansion and wait for Eureka (which for the love of fuck please don't let it be like Diadem), just do the same thing you did last expansion with a few new mobs here and there but mostly reskinned ones and hey, its worked before why change it now?

    I'm bored because I already know exactly what I'm going to be doing for the next two years and its basically the exact same thing I've done for the last two years. And I don't think I'm the only player that feels this way.
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    Last edited by Niraves; 08-05-2017 at 02:28 AM.

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