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  1. #111
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    If a healers DPSing, I expect a perfect run
    And why not? I hold myself to the same standard after all.
    Good luck with that.

    I'm not sure how you don't know this, but I'll tell you anyway...

    Human beings cannot obtain perfection. We are imperfect by nature and therefore we all make mistakes; you included. So be ready to vote kick yourself out quite often as well
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  2. #112
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    Keridwyn's Avatar
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    Keridwyn Maeve
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    Coeurl
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    I play as a healer 90% of the time so I've got a smaller opportunity to run into these types of people and indeed, I haven't. I do have a couple of questions though. Based on my own experience, if I have to blow every CD I've got on a tank during the first pull (and there isn't something funny going on like a double pull or extra adds and the like) I usually speak up. It's not to be mean, it's to make sure everyone is on the same page. I want my groups to succeed and in order to do that we've got to communicate. So are tanks who get involved with healers like this doing the same?

    I know there's a stigma about speaking up. Sometimes you find yourself kicked. Sometimes the group says 'oh just let it go'. Sometimes they start taking it out on you (which is the hardest for me). Nobody likes being blamed for someone else's failures. But at this point shouldn't we be taking that risk rather than making salty forum threads that, while cathartic, don't actually solve the issue?
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  3. #113
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    When I think of heavy, I think back like Doma Castle when I was leveling PLD 70 I would always do that big double pull from the start, regardless of healer ability. I always use Hallowed Ground for that one, if they are good they will take advantage of such with healer AoEs. But half the time they would just heal during the invulnerability Otherwise I just go through all my cooldowns, and try to proc some Sheltrons until this one dies.

    Doing it this way ensure Hallowed Ground is also back up when we got that Magitek+soldiers mob which is also really heavy to heal, sometimes I double pulled into that if the healer was really good.

    Now what I mention I never saw once with PUG tanks when I leveling my healers, but that is how a tank is supposed to play their defensive cooldowns. Use proactively and get more uses. But half the time you get dud tanks that just hit cooldown buttons after big damage hits, or when they scared they are going to die.
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  4. #114
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    If a healers DPSing, IAnd why not? I hold myself to the same standard after all.
    See, this is why I can't take you serious. When people actually seen you play in the game and told people how you play, I just can't take you serious at all.
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  5. #115
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    Rasylia's Avatar
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    Rasylia S'ial
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Good luck with that.

    I'm not sure how you don't know this, but I'll tell you anyway...

    Human beings cannot obtain perfection. We are imperfect by nature and therefore we all make mistakes; you included. So be ready to vote kick yourself out quite often as well
    I am starting to get curious what topic i missed, considering she seems to be quite "well known" around here...
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  6. #116
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    Tyranade's Avatar
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    Agatha Black
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I'm a returning player and used to play a WHM which I loved. I'm now feeling very nervous going back to healing and there's no way I will dps if I don't feel I can manage. Does that make me a lazy and bad player? I'm currently levelling a Bard just because I don't want to heal a dungeon without a trial run on a dps first. I always enjoyed healing and take a lot of pride in being a good healer. I haven't had any real abuse in FFXIV but I am always nervous I will get this tank that will just rush off before I have time to buff and then pull most of the room. I've had this happen so much in WoW that I just left the game just hate the gogo mentality that destroyed the enjoyment of the game for me. The community in FFXIV is mostly great though and I know the problem I have is just that, my problem. Just wanted to give you another view point.
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  7. #117
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    Xyno Edajos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyranade View Post
    I'm a returning player and used to play a WHM which I loved. I'm now feeling very nervous going back to healing and there's no way I will dps if I don't feel I can manage. Does that make me a lazy and bad player? I'm currently levelling a Bard just because I don't want to heal a dungeon without a trial run on a dps first. I always enjoyed healing and take a lot of pride in being a good healer. I haven't had any real abuse in FFXIV but I am always nervous I will get this tank that will just rush off before I have time to buff and then pull most of the room. I've had this happen so much in WoW that I just left the game just hate the gogo mentality that destroyed the enjoyment of the game for me. The community in FFXIV is mostly great though and I know the problem I have is just that, my problem. Just wanted to give you another view point.
    No one is asking you to overburden yourself. They are just asking you to do something in your downtime. That's all anyone has ever asked at all and anyone saying otherwise is on the opposite in and don't want to DPS at all.
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  8. #118
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    Rasylia's Avatar
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    Rasylia S'ial
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    No one is asking you to overburden yourself. They are just asking you to do something in your downtime. That's all anyone has ever asked at all and anyone saying otherwise is on the opposite in and don't want to DPS at all.
    People need to stop coming up with extremes.
    I, for example, always try to dps when healing. But, i am still in the "no healer dps"-camp.
    Why? Because i stand my ground and do not want Healer to be required to dps.

    It should always be an extra, and not mandatory.

    And thats what people fail to understand. We dont say healer should not dps / never dps. They just shouldnt be forced to dps.
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  9. #119
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    Luna Faye
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    I don't know how we got to 12 pages and 9 pages of them show that people can't follow a simple conversation. The topic does not say : Should healers dps/Should they not dps! The topic is about healers not doing anything, yes that means they stand around, despite the fact that they can't simply follow their role, and that means healing. Not even a regen gets applied, tanks dying to auto attack aka 500+ fluff dmg, when there are two healers in a party etc. It's not about the damn dps of healers, and people's opinion about it.
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    Last edited by LunaFaye; 08-04-2017 at 08:06 PM.

  10. #120
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    Rasylia S'ial
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    I don't know how we got to 12 pages and 9 pages of them show that people can't follow a simple conversation. The topic does not say : Should healers dps/Should they not dps! The topic is about healers not doing anything, yes that means they stand around, despite the fact that they can't simply follow their role, and that means healing. Not even a regen gets applied, tanks dying to auto attack aka 500+ fluff dmg, when there are two healers in a party etc. It's not about the damn dps of healers, and people's opinion about it.
    EDIT: Scratch that, i read it as an awnser to my post and not a general statement.
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    Last edited by Rasylia; 08-04-2017 at 08:15 PM.

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