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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    So you wouldn't care about queueing into a game and being destroyed with no chance to fight back because you don't have time to play all day everyday? That's kinda what you're asking for here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    ... you can't even go a sentence contradicting yourself. First and foremost, tomestones are not comparable because they are restricted. You can play as little as two hours or twenty each week and you'll cap, provided you choose the right content. On the chance you do miss a week(s) along the way, you'll have alternative options through Savage raiding and odd numbered patches. The person I quoted cites a system where you'll never catch up unless the person ahead of you stops grinding. They are able to play longer and due to unrestricted progression will always be ahead of you. Currently, someone can be more skilled but XIV prevents any one player from obtaining a long term advantage over another. It advertises itself on that very premise. Most games do because yes, people do care. Overwatch wouldn't be as insanely popular if someone who started a year ago could trounce everyone by virtue of having played longer and nothing else. That is one of the reasons For Honor flopped. Excluding its horrendous servers, someone who played longer or sent more money would utterly destroy everyone else. Very few people find that fun.
    And you are wrong because once you have the best.. that is it? People will get whatever they need on their own time. I talk often in DF, read the novice chat and so on. People do not care about gear at all unless it is some ilevel gate, gating them from access. Most people do not care about "being destroyed", and the thing is, PvP is not gear dependent at all. Everyone has the same, regardless of gear, regardless if level 30 or level 70.

    The only time gear is ever discussed is when someone has some off the wall extreme low level gear where it is notable by HP/ eyeballing low performance. I see more harassment over DPS values then the gear itself (because the gear is not the cause) like warriors doing more DPS then DPS classes, or healers pre SB (No idea if this is a thing now, I think the game is changed too much to give the opportunity, but I have not seen it.)

    Overwatch is not a MNO, and I have no clue on that game regardless, so off the point. People may care in that game, I do not know, but people do not care in this one, past how hard or easy it is to access something (if you where unlucky early HW, it was hard to continue the MSQ for example, I can see SB will not share the same problems, because the job quest line gives you 290 gear while you get 288 gear guaranteed to you as drops, once a run, something that did not happen trying to break that i150 line back then. Slowing access does nothing other then frustrates those that care more about their performance, the average player of FFXIV does not, unless it is salvage. I met ONE person asking another for parse numbers in a lore farm, and I was changing between BLM and WHM trying to figure out what would move runs the fastest. The person was trying but unlikely did not know rotations or something. In the end their healer could not dps as well as I could and their DPS could not DPS as much as my BLM. I think I just continued the farm as WHM since my healer DPS was much better then near zero. Gear was not a factor and it rarely is when people have discuessions like this in DFs. THe only other time gear has somewhat an impact outsude exteme undergearing is when the tank is at min ilevel entry while trying to hold off hate of BIS DPS. It is possable but you really need to know what you are doing, and what place and time this happens in also matter. For example, a 290 tank would have more problems now if they face a mix of 320/330/340 (not sure what is highest possible) then compared a 290 tank vs 314~ ish dps back before 4.05

    In those situations, there was never deweling on the gear itself, it was either the tank apologizing on the performance (most min level entry tanks are not exerts at play to being with, since they tend to be newer to be in that situation to begin with) or they are toxic and demand the DPS to hold back. Once I was with a decent geared tank kicked out by a premade duo over "pressing too much buttons" when I would steal hate 10 seconds after my quelling opener. I think you have a personal issue with people "gearing too fast" vs what the average player feels. If you want to go back to level 50, 2.0, i came in that game late and was kicked repeatly when I keep saying you need to make smaller pulls because I do not over gear (120) the place yet. Even then they still expected me to perform like I had GATED TIME GEAR, even though I couldn't from not be 50 long enough. That is the only time I seen a form of mocking of gear, along with seeing i270 required in pfs for simple things in HW.

    People in this game for the most part only care about gear ilevel for access, they do not care if someone has more then them, or the rate they do it as far as gear, so based playing since this game 2.0 opening and all the times I stepped in the duty finder, talking to people, I find your premise false. People care about having minions, glam, and mounts more then having the best ilevel gear along with how to meld it.

    I just had this convo with someone:
    (shout) To be fair some of the XI stuff would be a nice addition to this game
    Me (tell): your suggesting this game needs more content like ffxi offered many things to do yes?
    (tell reply)> and a higher challenge rfor endgame serious raids yes

    There isn't enough content in this game.
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 08-04-2017 at 10:26 AM.