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    Been messing and trying to switch from the 1 sen opener for savage but i can't seem to be able to output as much damage as the 1 sen opener.
    For exemple v3s dummy i do 4.55-4.6 1 sen while 3 sen opener is slightly under it, in raid i top at average at 4.6 +- for 3S with nin+balance+war slash res and 4.7 with 1s opener...
    Should i bump my sks for the 3s or should i keep as is and continue with the 1s
    Im at 1482 crit / 1654 dh / 1037 sks.
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hacchan View Post
    Been messing and trying to switch from the 1 sen opener for savage but i can't seem to be able to output as much damage as the 1 sen opener.
    For exemple v3s dummy i do 4.55-4.6 1 sen while 3 sen opener is slightly under it, in raid i top at average at 4.6 +- for 3S with nin+balance+war slash res and 4.7 with 1s opener...

    Should i bump my sks for the 3s or should i keep as is and continue with the 1s
    Im at 1482 crit / 1654 dh / 1037 sks.
    The 1 Sen and 3 Sen opener has varying spikes of damage just due to the nature of the SAM rotation, then evens out by the end. There's a great graph in The Balance discord showing this.

    At the 3 minute mark, the 3 Sen is at a lower point than the 1 Sen then spikes above it. You should notice Hagakure and Meikyo coming off CD a few seconds before 3 minutes.

    But with your SkS and the 1 Sen, you should be experiencing Hagakure's CD coming up but you're full on Sen and have another finisher. How are you dealing with that? Do you Midare and delay using Hagakure? With the 3 Sen rotation you basically always have 3 Sen to consume as the Hagakure comes up without much exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzer View Post
    So after doing some more testing, I've been seeing positive results by sacrificing even more direct hit for determination. So as of now I am prioritizing Crit > Det > DH.

    I'd imagine we'd want DH to at least be a certain value, but I think stacking it at the expense of crit and maybe det is a detriment overall to DPS. As my DH lowers I'll see how it effects my DPS, there's only so much I can do with my current gear. But yeah, stacking crit has been the single best thing for my DPS so far.
    Hmm it depend really.. Hard to explain how i handle it as i probably dont function to godtier lol but i just adapt on the fly and feeling.
    At 1034 sks i usually do 2 midare instead of 1 before the 2nd hagakure, sounds weird but if i do not do like this i always end up with hagakure ready long before meikyo (and i tend to like having them in sync to double weave Shinten)
    But aside that idk, i have most of the rotation working on feeling and muscle memory so i dont notice specific change/clipping that people could notice etc lol

    i've lowered my SKS to 950+- and adjusted my deter up and it seemed to do fine, the only issue i have is i end up with hagakure out of cd before meikyo (at our 30-40s cd on guren, i'd have to count which hagakure it is) but my dps seems to be right on par/ slightly above what i had.
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