[Request] Please make event gear harder to get outside of in-game events.

[Kosmos992k]

That Yo-Kai event was insane. Just doing the FATE grinding I leveled a Conjurer from about level 12 to a level 35 WHM before the FATEs were out of her range due to other field monsters.

LOL, it wasn't insane, it didn't take very long, and I got all the weapons I needed, I didn't bother with the 2nd mount, though I could have.

[Avatre]

Uh....please take a look at your original post, followed by this one.

Please make event gear harder to get outside of in-game events. Make more of the event gear obtainable only through the in-game events and not through the MogStation.

Entitlement is a cancer killing gaming, and anyone who supports it is what's wrong with gaming nowadays.

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LOL, it wasn't insane, it didn't take very long, and I got all the weapons I needed, I didn't bother with the 2nd mount, though I could have.

If you went for everything it was. And if your RNG was/is crap. RNG hates me and always takes forever to give me what I need to move on through quests(especially when FATEs are involved.

[Kosmos992k]

If you went for everything it was. And if your RNG was/is crap. RNG hates me and always takes forever to give me what I need to move on through quests(especially when FATEs are involved.

Yeah, there's no inconsistency in my posts. I'm not the one complaining that gear that was designed an implemented in game should be made available via the MogStation because I missed the event for <insert reasons>. Demanding that event items be made available seems to me to be case of entitlement since you missed the event itself, so why should the gear be made available outside the game so you can obtain it for $$? Entitlement?

RNG hates me. I worked for Atma for weeks and had a grant total of 3 Atma stones to show for it. So, don't talk to me about RNG...

[Avatre]

Yeah, there's no inconsistency in my posts. I'm not the one complaining that gear that was designed an implemented in game should be made available via the MogStation because I missed the event for <insert reasons>. Demanding that event items be made available seems to me to be case of entitlement since you missed the event itself, so why should the gear be made available outside the game so you can obtain it for $$? Entitlement?

And it can be said your entitlement is that you were there for it and got it, while those that weren't don't deserve it because they failed to participate.

What if someone who comes to the game late, wants the gear from that event for glamour(they have an active subscription, but started - lets say 2 weeks - after the event ended)? Do they not deserve the option of being able to buy it from Mogstation, if they desire? In the end, it is more money in SE pocket to do it this way as not everyone is around for all events.

[Kosmos992k]

And it can be said your entitlement is that you were there for it and got it, while those that weren't don't deserve it because they failed to participate.

I don't see how you think you can extend the definition of entitlement used in the way you are using it. If a player was subscribed and participated in the event then they did in fact earn the reward. Those players qualified to obtain it. Players not subscribed at the time did not qualify. Wanting something you did not in fact qualify to receive is 'Entitlement' in the context of how you are applying the word. Players believing that they are entitled even though the to not meet the requirements to qualify are displaying an attitude 'entitlement' when they demand the reward anyway.

In any case, as I said in my original post event items from the prior year(s) should be available in game for the in-game event tokens/currency used for the event when it next runs. So Moonfire Fair 2015/2016 items would be at the event vendor during this year's events. That gives plenty of opportunity for newer players or players who missed the prior event to obtain the items they want. This allows people who participate in the current event to earn the token/currency they need to obtain those older items in game.

After that, if they must go to the Mogstation then I suppose they must, but again, like I said in the post, perhaps it should only be during the time of the event in game. So in the example above Moonfire Fair items from 2013 & 2014 could be made available on the MogStation, while the 2015/2016 were still in game.

I'm not suggesting that these things should be a single shot possibility. I think they should be available in following years events.

As for your last question, no they should wait for the event the following year and obtain the things then.

That would be great, but it makes no commercial sense. The playerbase has obviously accepted that event items may be purchased from Mogstation. Removing them from there and reintroducing them to in-game vendors would be throwing away money at this point.

You are ignoring the benefit of increasing the value of the subscription to players who might otherwise unsub. Allowing players to obtain event items exclusively in-game during the event is a way to retain subscribers. That is a commercial benefit, and more subscribers translates to more players making worlds busier, and that has a positive impact as well.

So for the people who decided not to subscribe during those events, those events should just go all year around or... not sure I follow your logic here. If it's advertisement outside of the game I don't argue that they (S-E) should do more to publicly broadcast it outside of their subscription base. But this almost seems like you're suggesting the events, seasonal or otherwise, should be extended to give those even a better benefit of trying to do them.

No. I am suggesting that, during this year's moonfire faire event the items from the prior 2 years should be available for purchase at the event vendor. But once the event ends, they would not be available for sale in-game. For example, at moonfire faire this year, the 2015/2016 items could be available for whatever token they are using this year during the event. So players who missed out in the previous two years would have a chance to obtain the items during the current event. Not extending the event across the year. I also suggested that items from 3 or more years ago could be put up in the Mogstation - since they are no longer in-game.

The purpose of the suggestion is to increase the value of the events in game, by retaining the items as in-game rewards only for longer than is currently the case. And then either not making them available any longer, or placing them in the Mogstation, but only once they more than 2 events old.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't see how you think you can extend the definition of entitlement used in the way you are using it.

Because the entire basis of your post revolves around you feeling like these unique event items have arbitrarily lesser value since someone else can buy them off the Mogstation a year later. It's the definition of entitlement. You want an item to feel special for no other reason than you believe it should be. These events are supposed to be a fun little side activity that happens to have cute items attached to it. The devs don't intend for said items to be something you can brag about participating in. Regardless, I can't speak for your server, but event participation is certainly not an issue on Balmung. We've had the damn server break because people flock en masse every time. So... I don't think the devs need to incentive these events anymore than they already do.