The Summoning of Susano

[LineageRazor]

*snip*

On the flip side of this, we don't know he WASN'T a Primal. We never witnessed him tempering anyone, but that doesn't mean he couldn't. We didn't check to see if he was Siphoning Aether, but that doesn't mean he wasn't. The conditions were sufficient for the summoning of a Primal; the Kojin's faith in their treasures is strong, and we were in the treasure room where there were likely high levels of aether among many of the treasures (and even if not, we'd just finished slaughtering a bunch of Kojin to get them riled up, so there were sacrifices being made).

I do agree that the possibility is there that Susano is a different kind of entity, but at this point there's not enough evidence to say one way or another. Personally, I believe that Susano is a Primal of the same sort as Odin, simply due to the fact that both are entities bound to artifacts - but that's just my personal opinion. There's plenty of evidence pointing in other directions, as well.

[Nuach]

Words.

I agree with you that it was made ambiguous, I think that our differing interpretations is just how we view the lack of evidence. Without clear evidence that Susano is a Primal, even a single behavior that is known to be taken by Primals, tempering, hunger, I default to the lack of evidence may be evidence of absence, though perhaps in this erroneously since Susano was only around for a very short time. Whereas, if you'll forgive the assumption, you see the lack of evidence not as evidence of absence but instead simply as the lack of evidence without any greater implications, and thus default back to the closest possible analogue, Odin. I don't necessarily believe that either method of dealing with a lack of evidence is wrong, though there are philosophical schools that disagree with me there.

[Anonymoose]

Without clear evidence that Susano is a Primal

Susano─a primal by another name

Are you choosing to write this one off as deliberate misinformation?

Such disinformation does exist, and it is up to us to isolate it. This one I have admitted accepted thus far, since it's a clause specifically tacked onto system text in order to provide clarification.

[Nuach]

Are you choosing to write this one off as deliberate misinformation?

Yes, I am. While written as an objective observer, the narrator of the duty finder has made lore mistakes before, such as the Ramuh EX description where it referred to a plurality of Warriors of Light while contradicted everywhere else with your character as the singular WoL. I cannot treat it as any sort of lore source itself, it has been shown to be wrong about previous circumstances and is ultimately not omniscient. Thus I refer only to the in-game script and the encyclopedia as valid lore sources as they can be debated on their own merits, rather than system messages that have been wrong before.