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  1. #731
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    Someone I know is being forced to by a second retainer (4 total) who purely stores stuff for glams. "i always have to discard stuff i don't want to" For me I wish I could have a 9th, there is a lot of crafting I simply do not do because we lack room. This game has too much item bloat with no glam log. We need to get rid of the repeated items, Durium Sand, Doman Iron Sand, Palladium Sand should just be one item. Persimmon and Persimmon Leaf should be one item, all branches should be removed and all the synths that take them should use the appropriate log/lumber ( Camphor can use Camphorwood Log, those logs are hardly used in anything anyway, so again more rarely used items here being paired with something repetitive that fills the same purpose from the same node)

    AT the very least, we should get a free one with every expansion, though id prefer them to get rid of item management from retainers completely and give us a bank:
    Originally Posted by Live Letter XXXVII
    Q24. Please let us know if you’ve finalized the number of slots that will be added in the second Inventory and Armoury Chest expansion.

    A24. Unless we change from the current method, we do not think we can add any more slots. There are other factors to consider, such as managing inventory through the upcoming app, so this will take a little more time. It would be difficult to implement it by 4.1, but it is not so far off.
    then retainers are ventures only. (put stuff on the market board like every other game, the player does it directly)

    CHANGE THE METHOD THEN! give us a bank!
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  2. #732
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    Niqmepa Desfosse
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    If managing inventory via the app is getting in the way of expanding inventory, then they should abandon the app until they've fixed the game-breaking inventory problems. Maybe once the game doesn't have a monstrous dead weight in its basic functionality, SE can develop an app.
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  3. #733
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    Someone I know is being forced to by a second retainer (4 total) who purely stores stuff for glams. "i always have to discard stuff i don't want to" For me I wish I could have a 9th
    I wish people wouldn't do this... It doesn't help our argument in the slightest.
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  4. #734
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinsoul View Post
    If managing inventory via the app is getting in the way of expanding inventory, then they should abandon the app until they've fixed the game-breaking inventory problems. Maybe once the game doesn't have a monstrous dead weight in its basic functionality, SE can develop an app.
    I agree. I'd go one step further and say stop adding items completely till this is fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I wish people wouldn't do this... It doesn't help our argument in the slightest.
    I am forced to have 8, there is just not enough room. Costs too much, on top of things. It is that or not play at all.
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  5. #735
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    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    Pa Lin'guine
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    Say toad leather or silver ingots are super expensive, there could be the additional option to make prisms with a different type
    Just want to point it out. If you dig enough, all prism mats actually put "alternative" npc shops (levequests). Those are cheaper than actual npc shops except for ALC (none)
    I rather not have additional options or different mats that will take my retainers away for long time. They removed graded prisms for more simpler, not more complex.
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  6. #736
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    Drake Orkaan
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    a few thoughts on retainers and their cost:

    this game is Play to Play via subscription, which means everything should be available to the player including methods that would make grinding and farming a lot easier for no extra cost. so what makes retainers so special that they do not apply to this concept? they are there to literally make grinding and farming a lot more easier. not to mention that there are more than a few other conditions to use them, including leveling them up, giving them gear, and of course the Venture in-game currency. if im going to specifically pay for more than 2 retainers, they better already be level 70!

    in addition, it is unjustified to leave the player with one 2 free retainers, when it would make a lot more sense if the game at least let us have 3: one fore hunting with any job, and the other two for either gathering method.
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  7. #737
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    Tyurru Irisfield
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    I have currently 5 retainers and they are all currently have 0 inventory slots remaining... since HW... This small insignificant increase to the armory chest and player inventory is almost not even noticeable at all, I sincerely hope that they manage to solve their lack of storage space quickly, otherwise i'll be forced to buy another 3 additional retainers for 5.0 and I really REALLY shouldn't have to be forced to do that in a subscription based game...
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  8. #738
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    I'm a little put off if "we wanna put inventory stuff from lodestone in the app" is the reason they're giving for NOT giving us more inventory. What does that do? I don't care about WHAT is on my retainer or what they were selling the last time I checked them in game (which is when lodestone says it updates that), especially if I can't DO anything with the inventory. Checking ventures outside the game is .. mildly convenient but really? who needs an app to show them retainer inventory OUTSIDE the game?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  9. #739
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticdraggon View Post
    a few thoughts on retainers and their cost:

    this game is Play to Play via subscription, which means everything should be available to the player including methods that would make grinding and farming a lot easier for no extra cost. so what makes retainers sospecial that they do not apply to this concept? they are there to literally make grinding and farming a lot more easier. not to mention that there are more than a few other conditions to use them, including leveling them up, giving them gear, and of course the Venture in-game currency. if im going to specifically pay for more than 2 retainers, they better already be level 70!

    in addition, it is unjustified to leave the player with one 2 free retainers, when it would make a lot more sense if the game at least let us have 3: one fore hunting with any job, and the other two for either gathering method.
    I do not think they make you pay for them because of ventures... Now come to think of it WHY DO WE NEED to pay extra for a shortcoming in the game? really like a representative to respond to a thread that is i doono 180+ likes and 737 posts long?
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  10. #740
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    Now come to think of it WHY DO WE NEED to pay extra for a shortcoming in the game?
    At this point? They're deliberately keeping the inventory flaws in the game because people will pay for more retainers. SE makes more money by making the game worse.
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