Wow SE, you really want to see Blizzard win don't you? I hope competitors take full advantage of this.
Wow SE, you really want to see Blizzard win don't you? I hope competitors take full advantage of this.
You know what would be fair?It seems that people dont understand the difference between something being fair and it being equal. Here in Germany people that have a higher income will pay a higher income tax on it and people that only earn a certain amount of money per year (around max. 8800 € per year) wont have to pay any income tax. This is fair. If everyone needs to pay the same amount of taxes in percent than this would not be fair but equal to all. But something being equal is not always the good decision.
So this situation itself might make everyone equal but its far away from being fair.
1)Square Enix apologizes for not informing customers of upcoming changes on the official site.
2)Square Enix announces that during month after that declaration users that are affected by that change are free to refund at least the Stormblood DLC.
Doppel, just wanna say you're DOPE. Those are grear examples for people outside the affected areas.
I really wanna know what people are doing besides filling this forum with rage. I dont say your claim is wrong but some people think that SE havent pronounced yet, but they did! in this same forum.
About violation of the terms of service, i dont see anyome hiring a lawyer or filling a demand to steam and square enix.
Its good to rage in this forums as you know that wont change anything.
I havent seen press taking the matter, besides that what?
Well, aside from this forum:I really wanna know what people are doing besides filling this forum with rage. I dont say your claim is wrong but some people think that SE havent pronounced yet, but they did! in this same forum.
About violation of the terms of service, i dont see anyome hiring a lawyer or filling a demand to steam and square enix.
Its good to rage in this forums as you know that wont change anything.
I haven't seen press taking the matter, besides that what?
- People are raising awareness about this issue in other places, including reddit, neogaf, facebook communities and other places. More than anything, we can't let this matter just "die down" and get cold and forgotten.
- The reviews keep coming to the Steam page (currently at 48% and still going down), which is helping to raise awareness and also warning people who were considering to buy the game, and are now giving up due to what happened.
- We're still contacting other outlets. SidAlpha reported on the subject, and some people are contacting other outlets. It would be nice that more and more people could help on that.
- Multiple players are asking for refunds for the game. Square Enix didn't authorize the refunds, but players are taking the complains to Valve. If more people continue to do that, we might have a situation like No Man's Sky or Arkham Knight, where Valve intervened and allowed refunds due to the circumstances. This would finally be a more high-profile impact on Square Enix's pockets, so they wouldn't be able to ignore the matter any longer.
- A lot of players are migrating to other games. Some FCs with a heavy number of Russian players are already planning their migration to WoW, and I myself will probably be migrating to Guild Wars 2. This kind of migration, coupled with the spread of awareness over the issue, might have a cascade effect that, if not exactly major, will be less easy to ignore.
Aside from that, we keep asking that other players keep spreading the word, reaching for press, youtubers, gaming communities and so on. We can achieve something, but we must keep acting on the subject for that to happen.
yeah, this thread spiraled off the course and blew up in a glorious ball of fire and rage.
What most people don't seem to understand is that we are not complaining ABOUT THE PRICE, we are complaining that Square Enix didn't warn anyone and they made this change exactly after the deadline for users to ask for a refound in the Stormblood expansion.
With that in mind, you start to ask yourself if that was a big scam from their part just to sell more Stormblood copies, since a big part of the users from Russia and Brazil wouldn't get the expansion if the knew about the changes in the subscription price.
The problem with steam reviews is they are not based on region, eo now there are a lot of "sub increased 3x with no warning" reviews with no explanation that wouldnt impact anyone other than those in 2 countries. The sub also only increased if you used steam, the base sub for the game did not change on the official site .
While this does suck for those effected, a lot of those reviews are misleading. Its also not the devs fault, they are not in control of the company financing.
People saying this is not related to the game itself... /)_- Do you understand that this situation is ruining the gaming experience for the affected people?
Also, Stormblood has been a mess for me. I lost six days of sub while SE were trying to fix their stuff, but ok. Got my ping effed up with the server moving, but ok. Im not expecting refunds for that, but my personal experience has been ruined by all these factors and the lack of transparency, and I think it's fair to share my disapointment with the overall service on my Steam review.
Funny thing is, maybe I wouldnt even made the effort to spend with SB knowing how much the sub would cost to me one month after the purchase.
Last edited by Rofel; 07-23-2017 at 02:02 AM.
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