4.05 - Tenacity Vs Non-Tenacity Builds

[KDSilver]

The real thoughts behing tenacity is : right now, is it really necessary to have this extra mitigation ?
Once you'll have the 340 set, even O4S should hit less harder.

The next hard content waited is the Super Savage.
So, in others words... the only reason to have a full 340 tenacity set would be that Super Savage will hit so hard that you definitly need it to survive.
Otherwise, it'll be better to increase the values of the dps.

[dragonseth07]

The real thoughts behing tenacity is : right now, is it really necessary to have this extra mitigation ?
Once you'll have the 340 set, even O4S should hit less harder.

The next hard content waited is the Super Savage.
So, in others words... the only reason to have a full 340 tenacity set would be that Super Savage will hit so hard that you definitly need it to survive.
Otherwise, it'll be better to increase the values of the dps.

It depends on how high the mitigation gets vs the DPS loss. At some point, the personal DPS loss is made up for via healer DPS from mitigation over an encounter. Tank stances don't do this, but Tenacity MIGHT, it looks like. I'm eager to see where the numbers fall with higher ilvl.

[KDSilver]

It depends on how high the mitigation gets vs the DPS loss. At some point, the personal DPS loss is made up for via healer DPS from mitigation over an encounter. Tank stances don't do this, but Tenacity MIGHT, it looks like. I'm eager to see where the numbers fall with higher ilvl.

Tank have 100% dps uptime on the boss.
Healers don't.
Considerint healers' dps is now "lower" than before (no more cleric with the 10%), I think it should be better for tanks to have this dps increase.
But then again, you have to see first how hard bosses are hitting. Mitigation is one of the strongest thing in this game. Cause thanks to it, you survive. But if you can naturally survive without effort without too much mitigation, then than means it isn't needeed that much.

[Yorumi]

Tank have 100% dps uptime on the boss.
Healers don't.
Considerint healers' dps is now "lower" than before (no more cleric with the 10%), I think it should be better for tanks to have this dps increase.
But then again, you have to see first how hard bosses are hitting. Mitigation is one of the strongest thing in this game. Cause thanks to it, you survive. But if you can naturally survive without effort without too much mitigation, then than means it isn't needeed that much.

The main point is that we're talking about a ludicrously small dps gain. Basically you're trading half a tank stance for an almost unmeasurable dps gain. I do think there comes a point where we're a tad bit too obsessed with dps.