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  1. #21
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    Mandudez's Avatar
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    Man Dudez
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    If anything, I think GATHERERS have it harder than Crafters. Crafters are going to look to getting the crystals for their gear first, gatherers are more of a "middle class" that have to overmeld to get an HQ chance for Folkore (though it seems on the crafting side HQ folklore isn't even extremely necessary)...I just find that weird.

    (side note
    3* crafts I'm thinking will require 1580 Craft 1460 CTRL. )
    I would definitely focus on gathering stat and quantity over quality. HQ sells but they don't get much more than NQ does right now.
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  2. #22
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    Maku's Avatar
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    How. The early pullers don't care that much about the crystal market. They care more about the mount and getting as much hunts as possible for their battle classes. They aren't deviously twirling mustaches about the crafting market. A crystal drop is RNG, it doesn't go to the guy who pulled early.
    Again my point exactly. CURRENTLY!!!!!!! they are doing it for the mount and what not. HOWEVER, if there is an economic value to purposefully limiting the number of people that have the chance to obtain a certain item, in this case these cracked crystals people are talking about, the not only would the CURRENT insta pullers keep pulling early, but a NEW set of people doing it for economic reasons would emerge.
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  4. #23
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    Ayerinn's Avatar
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    Az Zurrei
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    If anything, I think GATHERERS have it harder than Crafters. Crafters are going to look to getting the crystals for their gear first, gatherers are more of a "middle class" that have to overmeld to get an HQ chance for Folkore (though it seems on the crafting side HQ folklore isn't even extremely necessary)...I just find that weird.

    (side note
    3* crafts I'm thinking will require 1580 Craft 1460 CTRL. )
    Gatherer melding is just as easy if not easier than crafter right now... here are my melds http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/118MZ super cheap and easy
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  5. #24
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    Snuggles Doombringer
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    Summoner Lv 80
    You really don't need cracked crystals. VI are easy to get. Go spend 30 minutes harvesting twincoon and 10 minutes mining effervescent water. Go get spirit Bonding potions and trade some seals to buy moonstones to get better crowned pie. Slap on a set of twinthread gear with some cheap crappy materia attached and quicksynth your your way to millions. Or 2* melds.
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  6. #25
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    Az Zurrei
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SnugglesD View Post
    You really don't need cracked crystals. VI are easy to get. Go spend 30 minutes harvesting twincoon and 10 minutes mining effervescent water. Go get spirit Bonding potions and trade some seals to buy moonstones to get better crowned pie. Slap on a set of twinthread gear with some cheap crappy materia attached and quicksynth your your way to millions. Or 2* melds.
    Easy (and time consuming) to spriitbond gear, yes I agree. BUT - Are grade Vi's guaranteed? No. If you do get a Grade VI are you guaranteed to get the one's you need? No. Cracked Crystals and/or buying for Yellow scrips solves the RNG aspect of Spiritbonding. Buying scratch off lottery tickets is easy...winning a million dollars from those tickets is not. How DoW/M get grade VI vs DoH/L is grossly unbalanced.
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  7. #26
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    Easy (and time consuming) to spriitbond gear, yes I agree. BUT - Are grade Vi's guaranteed? No. If you do get a Grade VI are you guaranteed to get the one's you need? No. Cracked Crystals and/or buying for Yellow scrips solves the RNG aspect of Spiritbonding. Buying scratch off lottery tickets is easy...winning a million dollars from those tickets is not. How DoW/M get grade VI vs DoH/L is grossly unbalanced.
    Aye. Sure sucks to be unable to group up with 7 other crafters only to get kicked for having grade 5s melded.
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  8. #27
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    QT_Melon's Avatar
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    Gatherer melding is just as easy if not easier than crafter right now... here are my melds http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/118MZ super cheap and easy
    That's WITH FOOD.

    You can pentameld Crafting sets and do 1 star w/o food but you don't need tier VI. I wanted to get to 1200 perception w/o food, what is the best meld for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I would definitely focus on gathering stat and quantity over quality. HQ sells but they don't get much more than NQ does right now.
    True, but I still would like to be able to hit 1200. Just thought the threshold was weird this time.
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  9. #28
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    Millen1's Avatar
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    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    If the grade VI is from luck or 2 lines in WT this week, this is a pain vs getting battle material from hunts. I have 2,000 yellow scrips that are useless, The gear you get from them is useless for the effort. I am surprised they did not add a way for us to spend yellow scrips on grade VI material. So I have 2,000 yellow scrips and nothing to use them on. slow clap.
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  10. #29
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    Dalaren Elvanis
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    With how many materials scrips requires- yes we should absolutely be able to turn them in crafting/gathering VI materia. There really is no excuse they can give me as to why they didnt.
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    Last edited by IllyriaKnotfred; 07-22-2017 at 04:56 AM.

  11. #30
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    Lialin Mia
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by IllyriaKnotfred View Post
    With how many materials red scrips requires- yes we should absolutely be able to turn them in crafting/gathering VI materia. There really is no excuse they can give me as to why they didnt.
    100% agree
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