4.05 crafting disappointment

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Second day of 4.05... already got all Master Books, and everything can be macroed... Worst of all, all the new recipes are items that are just re-skinned gear sets from World of Darkness...

I dunno how you guys feel. But I am really bored... by the same rotations and boring gear appearances. All I felt was being punished by the gil I spent on overmelds...

What was I looking for? Well, I don't think I could ask for really difficult items yet. But at least give us something prettier... rather than some re-skins... I felt being ripped off by the overmelds.

You may say "Hey, no one says you have to overmeld like that! There's yellow scrip gear!". Oh, oops, turned out those are just expensive anyway with the crazy amount of yellow scrips needed. And the fact that I didn't even acquire a single yellow scrip gear or tool, and still able to macro all those 2 star... well, just boring.

The new crafting skills represent some new possibilities... I think they could have opened some exciting new avenues in the world of crafting for us. Maybe it's just not the time yet? Until then, can't we have some prettier glamor gear for now to keep us happy? You know, shiny weapons? Sexy clothing? Sassy boots & gloves? etc.? (or the other way around... sexy weapons and shiny clothing would have been fine too)

[QT_Melon]

Honestly it's too early to say, and I actually feel more positive about this since it feels like it's just making it so people can have lives outside the game since that's what Yoshi stated in an interview where he wanted players to take some breaks and not have to log in and mindlessly grind. HW made crafting end game like Battle End game and people complained. Now it's more like a great introduction for players who were scared of crafting to get an idea of how it really works. It should be easing people in, not scaring them off outright. People eventually move on to do other things, so there needs to be an ease of waves to make it better for players to cycle in and out.

It's nice not to have to dedicate significant portions of time to crafting when I can now try out the new jobs and see all the other changes and overhauls (which is another time waster due to having to redo hotbars and redo cross skills).

As far as reskins go, least the WoD reskins are not some insane glamour quest that after wasting your time becomes some random drop in PoTD. Reskinning has been around since...well




It's also a smart way to handle resources since, having as many outfits as they do, I'm sure the files start taking up more and more space if you did uniques for everything. Since this is the first wave I'm a bit more lenient, this is early 4.0, but I do hope to see more stuff pop up in 4.1.

[Nixxe]

It's a bit underwhelming and I'm specifically disappointed with the lack of new crafting gear, but it's hard to be too upset that I don't need to make a bunch of class specific garbage. There's still money to be made though, so I don't really care. I'm more disappointed that the books didn't include anything like new furniture or other cosmetic items. I prefer to make money focusing on that sort of stuff rather than gear.

[QT_Melon]

I'm more disappointed that the books didn't include anything like new furniture or other cosmetic items. I prefer to make money focusing on that sort of stuff rather than gear.

Yeah, that I will agree more with, but it will be interesting to see everything blow up in 4.1 since that was the rumored time for Shirogane housing.

[SmallHobbit]

angry

dunno why you are angry about its not like is a surprised, its basicly same like in HW crafting nothing changes, everything just repeats and as the raids everything gets more easy so more ppl can enjoy it.

regards hobbit

[Nixxe]

Yeah, that I will agree more with, but it will be interesting to see everything blow up in 4.1 since that was the rumored time for Shirogane housing.

I have been preparing for it for a long time. The only problem is it will likely come during the school year and I won't be able to sit chained to my retainers all day.

[AdamZ]

Yoshi stated in an interview where he wanted players to take some breaks and not have to log in and mindlessly grind. HW made crafting end game like Battle End game and people complained.

The lack of a weekly gate means more grinding... you just have to do it all at one time, vs a small amount of time on a weekly basis. The gate actually allowed me to get into crafting and get up to speed, now it is just like all the 3.2 and 3.4 patches, you are involved out the gate, or you are sitting on the sidelines.

Not really sure what people where thinking, SB really is just a HW 3.2 or 3.4 patch from a crafting point of view, with a nerf in demand for battle crafted gear given normal mode had a two week head start.

It does seem like they could have made the 2 star a bit harder, given how there is no talk of need ToT or bring reclaim if bad rng like at HW start. But I think that just speaks how powerful PbP and MaMa are with scaling. Feel like they will have to make crazy high quality requirements or nerf those two for crafts to have anything be hard.

[LathusWHM]

Can anyone explain the alchemy route SE is currently taking.

Why is the focus all on sch/smn weapons? What happened to all the interesting pots... (Mana pots esp)

Alchemist feels more weapon based now and it's annoying.

[AdamZ]

Alchemist feels more weapon based now and it's annoying.

Aw, it has the infusions (pots) and the Reisui's (Dissolvent's), as its focus, same as HW. Not sure why you are saying weapons, I guess cause they are common in ALC turn-ins?

[Holy-chan]

As an alchemist main as far as crafting is concerned (no other crafter is even 50), I'm disappointed by the lack of new orchestrion rolls and housing items in the new Master Book. Not even a single one... Five reagents (which are only materials for other things, really) and two pieces of gear. That's underwhelming. I don't know how other crafting classes compare, but they typically have more stuff to craft than this.