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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Other than the fact that you don't have the progression requirements
    That's why I'm here asking them to change it. Thank you for understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbluesky View Post
    No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated
    I'm sorry but I have to agree and echo with others have said.
    If you wish to fight the final boss of O4S, then you should attempt to try it with PF/RF.
    (I don't think you can PF Savage at this time though.)
    Savage is literally accessible to everyone in the game, if you have the time and patience.
    Make a date to see when you can try it if you really wanna play it. ^^

    P.S. The new Savage is actually easier than you think, so it may not be THAT hard to run it and see how you feel on it.
    Even so, give it a whirl so you can at least try the boss for a while even if you can't clear it. You can still have fun.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    What exactly is stopping you from going there yourself? It's not like it's particularly hard..

    The best players in the world get there on day one and everyone is sure it isn't that hard.

    I don't care how easy everyone thinks it is, I just want SE to change it. I want casual access to fanservice fights and I am sure I'm not alone on this.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I'm sorry but I have to agree and echo with others have said.
    If you wish to fight the final boss of O4S, then you should attempt to try it with PF/RF.
    (I don't think you can PF Savage at this time though.)
    Savage is literally accessible to everyone in the game, if you have the time and patience.
    Make a date to see when you can try it if you really wanna play it. ^^

    P.S. The new Savage is actually easier than you think, so it may not be THAT hard to run it and see how you feel on it.
    Even so, give it a whirl so you can at least try the boss for a while even if you can't clear it. You can still have fun.
    I don't really care what the average raider thinks of the difficulty after using the best in the world as a barometer. I just want SE to change it. I want casual access to fanservice fights and I am sure I'm not alone on this.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbluesky View Post
    I am sure I'm not alone on this.
    The likes on your original post, and the mentality of the thread beg to differ sorry to say.

    If you truly want casual access to this content, wait 7 months. By that time the fight will be accessible in the DF without needing to clear the other turns, and people will be massively overgeared enough that you can see the phase.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    The likes on your original post, and the mentality of the thread beg to differ sorry to say.

    If you truly want casual access to this content, wait 7 months. By that time the fight will be accessible in the DF without needing to clear the other turns, and people will be massively overgeared enough that you can see the phase.
    This. A4S was accessible to everyone eventually even before level sync was a thing. Eventually this will happen with O4S.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    The likes on your original post, and the mentality of the thread beg to differ sorry to say.

    If you truly want casual access to this content, wait 7 months. By that time the fight will be accessible in the DF without needing to clear the other turns, and people will be massively overgeared enough that you can see the phase.
    That isn't good enough. I want to go in there now with my other friends who are also, for whatever reason, not able to raid. I don't want this trend set so that six months from now Zemus --> Zeromus or Sephiroth --> Safer Sephiroth or Esper Tower --> Angel Kefka isn't a thing.
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  8. #38
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    No, the devs learned that there needs to be a carrot to draw people into raiding. This is their first shot and I welcome it. If you can't get to it now, you can do it in later patches as we out gear it and in 1.9 years, out level it.
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  9. #39
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    SE please don't let this become a thing and please add the missing portion of the fight to NM.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbluesky View Post
    That isn't good enough. I want to go in there now with my other friends who are also, for whatever reason, not able to raid. I don't want this trend set so that six months from now Zemus --> Zeromus or Sephiroth --> Safer Sephiroth or Esper Tower --> Angel Kefka isn't a thing.
    You can not like it all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not going to accommodate this. Like Hyperia said they need incentives to get people to push progression and this is one of the ways they do that. Not liking it personally doesn't mean much in the end.
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