RIP Dark Passenger. Not enough Dark Knight changes.

[NellMoshroca]

DRK's state was at least "acceptable" back when WAR was suffering with us. But with 4.05 SE's lifted up WAR to sit at the big tank table with PLD and just thrown DRK some scraps.

It seems DRK was an after thought to Square and if we want to see any fixes to our class we're going to have to throw a bigger tantrum than WAR did. And the last thing I want is to have to wait all the way to 4.1 for spells like unleash, bloodprice and dark passenger to even be worth using.

[Pori_Dessu]

Souleater healing being applied, even if only partially, when out of Grit.

This is how Syphon Strike is working at the moment for our MP sustain, why can't it be like this for Souleater as well? Maybe making it heal for 50% of damage dealt outside of Grit, and 100% in Grit. I understand they supposedly don't want tanks tanking in DPS stance, but the current state of Souleater sustain is pretty disappointing.

[Daniel_Fury]

Quietus is giving about 5% MP a hit, so at 5 targets it's paying for a Dark Arts. That along with Blood Weapon/Price and Salted Earth should allow for some decent DAAD usage, even if not to the extent we used to. At 5 targets a single Blood Weapon+Quietus pays off a DADP.
At this point I think we can look at our survivability against packs as having been improved, and it would be better for us to have them look over our single target mitigation. Better The Blackest Night time, shorter Shadow Wall recast, Dark Mind having use against physical damage, Souleater healing being applied, even if only partially, when out of Grit.

That pull in temple of fist with roughly 10 mobs was ridiclous. Full DA AD spam and ended at 6.5k dps in grit o.o

[EusisLandale]

This is how Syphon Strike is working at the moment for our MP sustain, why can't it be like this for Souleater as well? Maybe making it heal for 50% of damage dealt outside of Grit, and 100% in Grit. I understand they supposedly don't want tanks tanking in DPS stance, but the current state of Souleater sustain is pretty disappointing.

88.4% is about what it's healing for at 70 in Grit right now. Even if they go ahead and half that down to 44.2% when Gritless it should be fine. Weaker than Storm's Path, but still going to see more frequent use. So that one change alone would at least help close the gap between Dark Knight and Warriors.

[Pori_Dessu]

88.4% is about what it's healing for at 70 in Grit right now. Even if they go ahead and half that down to 44.2% when Gritless it should be fine. Weaker than Storm's Path, but still going to see more frequent use. So that one change alone would at least help close the gap between Dark Knight and Warriors.

Indeed. I don't want our self sustain to be WAR level, as I always thought that was one of the things that made WAR unique, but at the moment our self sustain isn't something to take into consideration at all, it's just a "little bonus" in our only DPS combo.

[Linkan]

Blood gauge skills should be OFF cd GCD, tbn server issues should be fixed and our mitigation skills get a lower cd. There you go.

[EusisLandale]

Blood gauge skills should be OFF cd GCD, tbn server issues should be fixed and our mitigation skills get a lower cd. There you go.

1. Reasoning for this being?
2. How do you propose they do that?
3. Lower CDs are nice and all but baseline we only have ONE that can apply to any situation until we get The Blackest Night. We need better durations and we need more applicable abilities.

[347SPECTRE]

We need more CDs at sub-70 levels, at least one or modify an existing CD like Blood Price as many have been suggesting. I'm probably repeating what many have already said but give BP like a 10% damage reduction for the duration.

[Pori_Dessu]

Blood gauge skills should be OFF cd GCD, tbn server issues should be fixed and our mitigation skills get a lower cd. There you go.

1. Don't agree with this, as right now, the fact that BS and Quietus are GCDs is one of the few things I'm finding enjoyable on the Job. Unless they made changes to DA as well, so I didn't have to push it in between pretty much all GCDs, and double weave to be optimal (Which I can't do, due to latency issues). On an objective point tho, BS on oGCD would be kinda broken with the current potency and rate at which we can use it.
2. They can't do something about the server issues, but they should change TBN activation time, like they did with Mudras at some point.
3. Only skill we need to get a lower CD on is Shadow Wall. But even then, we would still need some more mitigation tools to not have mitigation issues in between busters.

[Kalocin]

We need more CDs at sub-70 levels, at least one or modify an existing CD like Blood Price as many have been suggesting. I'm probably repeating what many have already said but give BP like a 10% damage reduction for the duration.

Yeah that would be a nice way to make it more useful and give us some steady mitigation at lower and higher levels. The former is actually worse as most bosses use physical only leaving you with shadow wall or only role skills. Considering you get it at level 46, I feel sorry for any 30+ Drks with limited access to said skills.

MTing Susano is rough because you need to pair TBN with SW or Rampart for Stormsplitter and Dark mind for Uheki. This leaves you with only convalescence or using TBN which usually won't break on autoattacks. Gist version: Low and High end levels do not have enough mitigation.