RIP Dark Passenger. Not enough Dark Knight changes.

[Kalocin]

No changes to dark passenger. No changes to TBN or our mitigation. Savage selection is going to be rough now that Warriors are buffed.

I don't understand what's the purpose of this ability, it currently serves no purpose outside of destroying your mana pool.

Likewise The Blackest Night is still going to make me rage quit due to server ticks and not registering. 3 seconds of TBN and you get hit by the Tank Buster = A really, really bad feeling.

Shadow Wall is still at a high cd with lower mitigation for no discernible reason.

Here's hoping the soul eater buff is good enough.

[rjspencer4]

and hoping Quietus restores more mp than blood price

[EusisLandale]

No changes to TBN or our mitigation.

Blame the excessive focus on tank DPS on why they overlooked doing anything to anybody's mitigation.

[KMFDM_Kid2000]

Blame the excessive focus on tank DPS on why they overlooked doing anything to anybody's mitigation.

A total of 12 changes have been made to all tank role abilities, shared and individual, that directly impact defense.

A total of 6 changes have been made to all tank role abilities, shared and individual, that directly impact offense.

You are objectively and factually wrong. Source: https://gamerescape.com/2017/05/30/f...nalysis-tanks/

[Deathshiro]

I have no words

20 potency and an mp restore effect to our aoe


REALLY?!?!!?

[RaizeGraymalkin]

There will be more balance changes in the future. They won't always nail everything the first time.

[eagledorf]

Quietus change is probably to discourage dropping Grit to get MP from Blood Weapon so it at least makes sense. Unexpected, but IMO a good change.

All told, I feel the tank adjustments are incredibly stupid and DRK definitely got the shortest stick. SE could really use some new blood on their dev team or at least to bring in some players as testers or to be involved in development so they don't keep doing stupid things. I still maintain that making WAR stance dancing totally free without making at least some adjustment to the penalty on DRK and PLD (lol gauge buff on PLD misses the point entirely) is also bad and that they know it's bad and don't care.

It just feels like they screwed up and have no ideas so they're just backtracking a little bit to 3.0 (which was sooooo good. Not like they rushed 4.0 out because it was a disaster or anything). Seriously, is this all they can deliver after 2 years of (apparently empty) promises?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Quietus change is probably to discourage dropping Grit to get MP from Blood Weapon so it at least makes sense. Unexpected, but IMO a good change.

All told, I feel the tank adjustments are incredibly stupid and DRK definitely got the shortest stick. SE could really use some new blood on their dev team or at least to bring in some players as testers or to be involved in development so they don't keep doing stupid things. I still maintain that making WAR stance dancing totally free without making at least some adjustment to the penalty on DRK and PLD (lol gauge buff on PLD misses the point entirely) is also bad and that they know it's bad and don't care.

It just feels like they screwed up and have no ideas so they're just backtracking a little bit to 3.0 (which was sooooo good. Not like they rushed 4.0 out because it was a disaster or anything). Seriously, is this all they can deliver after 2 years of (apparently empty) promises?

Neither Dark Knight nor Paladin are nearly as punished for switching stances. Warrior, meanwhile, has half it's kit built around being able to go into Deliverance. It can't even use it's strongest base potency ability without switching whereas Souleater ignores Grit entirely and Holy Spirit can still be used. Forcing a penalty to stance swapping just encourages more Warriors to stay out of Defiance indefinitely. Granted, I dislike the GCD cost for the other two tanks, but it's a much smaller hindrance.

No offense, but claiming we're back to 3.x tells me you're missing the forest for the trees. 3.x Warrior was the undisputed king. Not bringing a Warrior was a pointless hindrance on the raid since it either made the Ninja suffer a DPS loss or the entire group lose slashing. Even with the changes seen in 4.05, it's still debatable whether Warrior's better than either of it's counterparts. That's a far cry from where it used to be.

[Reynhart]

Warrior, meanwhile, has half it's kit built around being able to go into Deliverance.

Apparently, I've been told that it's an invalid complaint each time I suggested Inner Beast and Fell Cleave would be fused to only take one skill slot (Same for Steel Cyclone and Decimate) so that WAR would have room to learn 2 additionnals skills unrelated to their stance.

[Ash_]

Thread should be renamed to RIP DRK. I'm convinced they never tested the new SB DRK in levelling content.