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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    So this is what Yoshi-P meant by MNKs outdamaging SAMs in Savage. Because ASTs feed MNKs spear now. Interesting. :thinking:
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    Vahette Lauclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniDragon View Post
    Dark Knight needs a lot more attention than they got. They still have mitigation and DPS concerns compared to the other two tanks with not enough utility to justify it, and SE seems to just be plugging their ears in regards to this job. They don't even really mention them, it's almost always PLD or WAR.
    Yeah, they do still need help, but it's still an improvement, and they managed to do it without gutting PLD. I'm curious how much mana Quietus will actually restore, may have to level my DRK and play with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post
    So this is what Yoshi-P meant by MNKs outdamaging SAMs in Savage. Because ASTs feed MNKs spear now. Interesting. :thinking:
    Everyone knows the only card you give a monk is Arrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syfurion View Post
    Yeah, they do still need help, but it's still an improvement, and they managed to do it without gutting PLD. I'm curious how much mana Quietus will actually restore, may have to level my DRK and play with it.
    In a perfect world, it would give back the values of MP Blood Price used to so that you can be pretty liberal with Dark Arts Abyssal Drain, since they didn't see fit to address DRK's passive mitigation on non-tankbusters and this change is clearly aimed at multiple mobs and dungeon content rather than raid stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniDragon View Post
    In a perfect world, it would give back the values of MP Blood Price used to so that you can be pretty liberal with Dark Arts Abyssal Drain, since they didn't see fit to address DRK's passive mitigation on non-tankbusters and this change is clearly aimed at multiple mobs and dungeon content rather than raid stuff.
    I feel like they want you to be able to do SOME DA-AD with this change, but they clearly don't want the ability to spam it as much as you could in 3.x. I haven't gotten my DRK up to the level of Quietus, so I don't know how much you can spam it during Blood Price, I doubt a single quietus will give you a full DA-AD, but if you can do it every 2 or 3, that may work. This should give DRK at least some of their AoE damage back, if nothing else, and if things die faster, you take less.
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    Last edited by Syfurion; 07-18-2017 at 05:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.