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    Player
    meetch2488's Avatar
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    Mazarek Valtraes
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70

    Bane/Sustain in 4.1

    Having played my fair share of summoner so far, I can honestly say that the Bane nerf I feel is huge. Not to summoner but to its usefulness as a skill. Painflare and fester are more useful, dps wise than Bane will ever be.

    IMO i think that main should be brought back to its original 1 target + 2, (without using an aetherflow) and sustain brought back by using 1 aetherflow, and either healing a percentage overtime, (for pets) or being a buff or heal for Team Mates. for example (use use Sustain on a Tank, each time they take damage for the next X seconds, it is reduced by Y percentage. If used on a pet, it will heal X% of its life every Y seconds.

    For Healers it could be, Each dps dealt by the anointed healer, will be released after 3 seconds in an aoe heal, centered on the healer.

    etc, etc.
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    No, just bring back the NORMAL sustain. It's a pain in the ass to keep pets alive and having to position them again and again which takes time from Sch/Smn. Don't try to change what wasn't broken.
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    Coatl Days
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Dude no one would use sustain if it used up an aetherflow. It's just not worth it.
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Bring back Sustain as it already existed.

    Give Bane damage fall off using the same %'s as every other damage fall off ability in the game.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    Bring back Sustain as it already existed.

    Give Bane damage fall off using the same %'s as every other damage fall off ability in the game.
    It actually has less damage fall off than Hissatsu:Guren, amusingly. I can't think of a skill that drops harder.

    Also, the Bane nerf wasn't targeted at SMN but SCH. Apparently SE didn't like they were spending their time AFK spamming Blizz2, so there ya go.
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    P'lha Tahl
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    It actually has less damage fall off than Hissatsu:Guren, amusingly. I can't think of a skill that drops harder.

    Also, the Bane nerf wasn't targeted at SMN but SCH. Apparently SE didn't like they were spending their time AFK spamming Blizz2, so there ya go.
    Bane looses 80% of its damage. How is this less than the 50% loss of Hissatsu:Guren?
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    Bane looses 80% of its damage. How is this less than the 50% loss of Hissatsu:Guren?
    Guren loses 75% of it's damage by the third target hit, going from an Impressive 800 to a meager 200. Bane on the other hand only drops by 80% on the fifth target hit.
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    Nemeera Starnight
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 90
    We don't need heals for group that the healer job... we need heals for our pets
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Remove Physick from Summoner, swap it with Sustain.
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    Remove Physick from Summoner, swap it with Sustain.
    "Sustain Mastery" trait.
    Unlock level 30 when Summoner soul crystal is received. Changes Physic to Sustain on Summoner only. When level synced, Physic stays reverted to Sustain as long as Summoner is the job being played.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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