Some healers make me panic

[Ekimmak]

When I play as my Scholar alt, I get into these weird situations, where the tank will take barely any damage, so I swap to doing some DPS... only for them to suddenly be half dead when I look to them about 5 seconds later.

Might just me being a bad healer, though.

[Rhyn]

[Ogulbuk]

I'm thorn on this topic.

As a SCH, I hate that I will throw Excogitation at a tank when he is almost 50% HP and they panic, clicking every single cooldown, never ever getting to 50%HP and therefore never procing the 650 potency heal, wasting my Aetherflow.

As a WAR, I hate that Upheaval becomes worthless if my HP is not high enough, a skill I feel should be ideally always be kept on cooldown. Paladins also have a similar issue with Spirits Within.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

You know what's fun? Be in voice chat with your healer. When you hear them screaming in terror when you're at 20%, you may proceed to panic. Their butt is clenching just as tight as yours at this point. xDD

LOL I do this to one my tanks all the time on discord, all I hear is mase..mase.MASE! MASE!!

[Bravely_Default]

In dungeons I just pretend I don't have a healer and clemency if I fall below 30%. too many deaths to careless or lagging healers in the past to not make use of my own kit :/

[Galgarion]

Can the tank community please decide on a consensus. Do you want us healers to push DPS or not? We get shit on and yelled at if we do or if we don't and it is kupoing annoying.

If you don't die then suck it up and keep moving. We care about your HP not your feelings.

DPS away, brah. If I live, you're a hero. If I die, you suck. If you can handle those extremes, then do your thing, baby.

[Maku]

DPS away, brah. If I live, you're a hero. If I die, you suck. If you can handle those extremes, then do your thing, baby.

You're my hero.

On a real note: most the confusion of when we healers should heal comes from people who don't know healers kits. Each healer has what I call a burst healing rotation that can instantly heal a VIT tank to full from pretty much 1hp. If people understood this and how we utilize it, I think things would be much better. That being said, I have tried to explain this in various areas but of course there are people who ignore it and say I am wrong.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Alternatively do what I do: When you drop quietly give them a death glare and huff at friends. *snip*

Thanks for idea for a macro, Thunda Cat!

/em Kacho gives <t> a death glare
/wait 2.5
/say Have you ever tried tanking with a dented codpiece?
/angry

[Vaala]

I find this thread really interesting as I just finished reading basically the counter-argument on the healer boards. I'd encourage anyone to read both threads to get some enlightening perspective.

There's such a distinction between good healers/tanks and bad healers/tanks right now. Someone earlier basically said to read the situation. If the first dungeon pull is a double pull, I get my fairy going fast with Rouse/Whispering Dawn while I lay out Shadowflare, start DoT's and see how the tank is doing. If they're sustaining well, then it gives me an idea that I can possibly DPS a bit more and keep an eye out the rest of the pull to adjust. If they struggle early, i bypass most all DPS other than Shadowflare and turn into more of a healbot. In Stormblood content I try not to let tanks sustain below 50%...I've seen people drop too fast from there. In older content, that threshold is a little lower, but not if I know there are heavy hitters.

The flip side is last night I struggled incredibly to keep my tank alive in Bardham's. I had cycled through all CD's including Eos cooldowns...spamming as fast as I could, and still lost the tank. While physick spamming I didn't see any CD's and he was in DPS stance. So reading the situation is definitely both ways. Tanks DPS as much as you can, but if your healer is spamming heals and can't get you over about 30-40% may consider tank stance again

Healer/tank is such a team, and it's great when you just get a feel on the first pull that you two are in sync and can push each other!

[Kabooa]

All of this is fine until you lose each other's trust. It's one thing if you all know each other, it's another in a basic pug.

You can deal 5% less DPS to keep someone at safe levels, and you're going to have a much smoother run than if you really have to cast that last Bio when the guy's already sub 20%, regardless of what you have up.

The better the tank trusts you, the more planned the cooldowns are, which means the less spikey the damage is, which means the smoother you can damage and heal.d

And trust in a pug is both easily given and easily lost.

Edit:

Bardram's is a terrible spike in incoming damage as well. There's more ranged mobs, there's absurd AoE sizes (not necessarily damage) and for every small 'aoe pack' there's a big mob that has a heavy auto and a heavy swing.