"Pull Everything" in Dungeon Parties

[HyperiusUltima]

I understand the mentality, but if somebody's not comfortable give them their god damn space and go with their flow instead of whining about "Oh this is taking too long, so I'll pull for you".

It's starting to get on my nerves because not only once, but twice I've seen this and I'm not even at the supposed end-game content yet. Give Tanks a break when they're trying to learn the layout before asking them to do big pulls all the time like you do in Heavensward end-game content.

[Ebonwings]

Well just leave them with the lowest hp ever before you provoke it back or just let them die before healer get the aggro. If it's the healer that pull, I'll just leave them with low hp before I grab the mobs. XD

[Bixillarla]

If anyone pulls for me as tank I let them tank it and die then I will pick it up. Enough deaths they will learn not to pull for you.

[Janhyua]

Mine is opposite

I try not to pull everything if it's a scholar and I will pull everything if it's a white mage because they have no excuse lol

[Violyre]

People just aren't patient. If I'm in something, and there's someone new, and there's a mechanic they need to know, I want to stop for a moment to tell them.

AND THEN THE DPS PULLS SHINRYU OIHUJAWEFKJMGNWO"EPOWEJ

And people wonder why some people think "the fight is hard."

As for other content, yeah, the same stuff. I once turned off Defiance after telling a BLM that he was tanking if he pulled again, and he did just that. Petty? Yes. Yes I am. People need to realize that usually, a good tank knows what they can pull that won't get the group murdered. A bad tank, on the other hand, will tell the healer to deal with it when THEY'RE BARELY ABLE TO ENTER BRAYFLOX'S LONGSTOP HGOIAWJOISER:EHRFUIOESWHRF

I've had some things to get off my chest for a few years now.

[LunaFaye]

Give Tanks a break when they're trying to learn the layout before asking them to do big pulls all the time like you do in Heavensward end-game content.

I would love giving tanks a break, but lately we encountering new players, or well the jump potion players, that will pull everything even without having done the dungeon at least once. Had one of these clowns in my party last night, we start and tank says well I am new and never done this dungeon. I said, no problem we can go slower then, trying to explain to him what he needs to watch out for, before I knew it, he pulled everything in that stupid griffin dungeon. Can't remember the name, sure enough I pop one aspected benefic on him, and woopdidoo everything and not just the archers flew my way. Thanks SE for not nerfing astro or it would have been wipe after wipe lol.

DPS on top of that was slower than the snail mail here in the US, despite nobody could follow or knew mechanics, but wanted to criticize me.

So yes, I am all for giving people a break, but if new players are taught to go that route, and ruining my fun leveling my 5th job to 70, I rather go with the more experienced players and have them pull the whole place and finish in a much faster time, at least they find their dmg and cooldown buttons.

[NocturniaUzuki]

Personally, as a healer, I tend to up the pulls to silently tell the tank "I can handle it." I even do the tank a favour if I'm WHM and pull them to his location followed by Holy to stun them and let him get a handle on the aggro. If the tank tells me not to afterwards, then I'll stop. But usually it's not a problem unless the tank dies because of the extra mobs. And since I don't pull extra mobs that I can't heal the tank through, that generally doesn't happen (unless the tank is completely hopeless at avoiding mob AoEs).

[Zarabeth]

As a dps (SMN) I know better than to pull anything in a dungeon, raid, etc., no dps should be pulling in dungeons. As a healer (WHM) I just let them die when they do stupid things like pull for the tank. Unfortunately it's the only way some learn.

[Katryn]

Selecting a dungeon's pace is a tank's right and responsibility. Gauging a group, deciding what to try, and reallocating focus if things don't turn out as planned. Anyone who wants to pull instead of follow needs to get off their dps or healer and roll their own tank instead. There will always be a bad tank here and there, but on the whole people who dedicate themselves to the role tend to have a good handle on what they are comfortable with and what--on average--a variety of group makeups can deal with. Let them do their freakin' role, people.

[LunarEmerald]

I honestly can't stand baby pulls in expert dungeons. There's no excuse for it because unlike leveling dungeons, we vastly overgear it.