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    Player Clethoria's Avatar
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    Y'aschas Massif
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I honestly can't stand baby pulls in expert dungeons. There's no excuse for it because unlike leveling dungeons, we vastly overgear it.
    There's that word again. We. Who we? I'm not vastly overgeared for tanking.
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    People in groups are stupid. Really, really stupid. As individuals, we're okay, but put us in a group setting, and a lot of us will cross the invisible threshold and become impatient assholes who will treat a stranger in a manner that we'd never treat a friend. It's the human condition.

    Something that needs to be considered, is that duty finder is a cesspool of anti-social, and maladjusted loners who are forced to use it because they can't make friends with other people, or they're hated by their free companies. People like that are incapable of basic politeness, and tactful decision making.
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    Last edited by Galgarion; 07-18-2017 at 04:15 AM.

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    Kanzer's Avatar
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    Kanzer Vardel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    People in groups are stupid. Really, really stupid. As individuals, we're okay, but put us in a group setting, and a lot of us will cross the invisible threshold and become impatient assholes who will treat a stranger in a manner that we'd never treat a friend. It's the human condition.

    Something that needs to be considered, is that duty finder is a cesspool of anti-social, and maladjusted loners who are forced to use it because they can't make friends with other people, or they're hated by their free companies. People like that are incapable of basic politeness, and tactful decision making.
    I'd say it's more full of bad players who want to excuse being bad instead of actually work to improve. But hey, if they're so good at making friends, then maybe they can just queue with their other bad friends and stay out of duty finder. Then they can enjoy their forever long dungeon runs without any complaints.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzer View Post
    I'd say it's more full of bad players who want to excuse being bad instead of actually work to improve. But hey, if they're so good at making friends, then maybe they can just queue with their other bad friends and stay out of duty finder. Then they can enjoy their forever long dungeon runs without any complaints.
    Just want to make a comment about your constant assertions that others are "bad players", "bad" or "baddies".

    Guilty dog barks first, and you're barking a lot.
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    missybee's Avatar
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    Mia Montblanc
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Just want to make a comment about your constant assertions that others are "bad players", "bad" or "baddies".

    Guilty dog barks first, and you're barking a lot.
    I don't know anything about Kanzer's skill, but what I do know is that there are a lot of really terrible players here on the OF that go on and on about how their way is superior when it is just objectively incorrect.

    So...there's just a lot of "barking" in general.
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    Kanzer's Avatar
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    Kanzer Vardel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Just want to make a comment about your constant assertions that others are "bad players", "bad" or "baddies".

    Guilty dog barks first, and you're barking a lot.
    Useless comment that has nothing to do with the discussion actually going on. Though I can't say I'm surprised. Ruff. :>
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    NatSilverguard's Avatar
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    Nat Silverguard
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzer View Post
    I'd say it's more full of bad players who want to excuse being bad instead of actually work to improve. But hey, if they're so good at making friends, then maybe they can just queue with their other bad friends and stay out of duty finder. Then they can enjoy their forever long dungeon runs without any complaints.
    You people talk like FFXIV is hard to play, lol.

    One of the easiest game there is.

    This is a themepark game for a reason.

    So keep calling others bad, this makes me cringe a lot.
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    People in groups are stupid. Really, really stupid. As individuals, we're okay, but put us in a group setting, and a lot of us will cross the invisible threshold and become impatient assholes who will treat a stranger in a manner that we'd never treat a friend. It's the human condition.

    Something that needs to be considered, is that duty finder is a cesspool of anti-social, and maladjusted loners who are forced to use it because they can't make friends with other people, or they're hated by their free companies. People like that are incapable of basic politeness, and tactful decision making.
    Case in point, the underscored emphasized by the bolded.

    I use DF because I don't want to wait 15minutes for a complete Light Party to queue up(yes, it does take some people that long from when the party is full for the roulettes to start the queue) that some of my FC members take. I run them right away so that I can do other things, and help people in the FC if they ask for it. Don't generalize all DF people as what YOU think they are.
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Case in point, the underscored emphasized by the bolded.

    I use DF because I don't want to wait 15minutes for a complete Light Party to queue up(yes, it does take some people that long from when the party is full for the roulettes to start the queue) that some of my FC members take. I run them right away so that I can do other things, and help people in the FC if they ask for it. Don't generalize all DF people as what YOU think they are.
    I wrote "a lot of us", not "all of us." I often say one good party makes up for ten bad ones. Don't take it as an attack on your character if I notice that the majority of pugs are comprised of jackasses. I'm closing in on 3,000 dungeons tanked, so while my opinion may be arbitrary, it's also informed by solid experience.
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    Last edited by Galgarion; 07-18-2017 at 04:49 AM. Reason: grammar

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    micropanther7's Avatar
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    Peony Foxbriar
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    Louisoix
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    Monk Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    That's a false equivalency, Kanzer. You're equating lack of experience with lack of skill. No two people learn at the same rate. Your mentaliity of sink or swim might produce short-term gains in the form of finishing the dungeon faster, but it's bad in the long run if your actions cause a frustrated and embarrassed tank to stop wanting to play. Future groups are impacted by that. A little patience can go a long way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    I wrote "a lot of us", not "all of us." I often say one good party makes up for ten bad ones. Don't take it as an attack on your character if I notice that the majority of pugs are comprised of jackasses. I'm closing in on 3,000 dungeons tanked, so while my opinion may be arbitrary, it's also informed by solid experience.
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    People in groups are stupid. Really, really stupid. As individuals, we're okay, but put us in a group setting, and a lot of us will cross the invisible threshold and become impatient assholes who will treat a stranger in a manner that we'd never treat a friend. It's the human condition.

    Something that needs to be considered, is that duty finder is a cesspool of anti-social, and maladjusted loners who are forced to use it because they can't make friends with other people, or they're hated by their free companies. People like that are incapable of basic politeness, and tactful decision making.
    I really like the cut of your gib sir Here's hoping I meet you in DF
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